Where to buy?

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Post by Joe » Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:10 pm

Post by Joe
Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:10 pm

Unless I'm mistaken, the RB2000 was supposed to be available for sale at the end of last year. But I can't seem to find it anywhere. Can anyone recommend a supplier (preferably in the US)?

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— Joe
Unless I'm mistaken, the RB2000 was supposed to be available for sale at the end of last year. But I can't seem to find it anywhere. Can anyone recommend a supplier (preferably in the US)?

Thanks,
— Joe
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Post by Ray » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:44 am

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:44 am

Hi, For RB2000, I can only provided you with Japan web site:

http://www.rt-net.jp/index.php?main_pag ... anguage=en
The saleman know english.

but, anyway, the manual is only Japanese
You can buy any parts from this company including the powerful RBS5802 servo

For RB1000, You can contact

http://www.graupner-robotics.de/

this is a company in Germany and you can download the free English Manual.

It is a pitty only RB2000 has PS2 Controller and plenty of extension board :? ........ as well as plenty of demo motion:
http://lets-robot.com/modules/mydownloads/ (Japanese)
Hi, For RB2000, I can only provided you with Japan web site:

http://www.rt-net.jp/index.php?main_pag ... anguage=en
The saleman know english.

but, anyway, the manual is only Japanese
You can buy any parts from this company including the powerful RBS5802 servo

For RB1000, You can contact

http://www.graupner-robotics.de/

this is a company in Germany and you can download the free English Manual.

It is a pitty only RB2000 has PS2 Controller and plenty of extension board :? ........ as well as plenty of demo motion:
http://lets-robot.com/modules/mydownloads/ (Japanese)
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Post by Joe » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:21 am

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:21 am

Ray wrote:For RB1000, You can contact

http://www.graupner-robotics.de/

this is a company in Germany and you can download the free English Manual.

It is a pitty only RB2000 has PS2 Controller and plenty of extension board

Actually, it looks like they have the RB2000 now too: http://www.graupner-robotics.de/index.php?id=30&L=1

Thanks for the tip! Now, what's wrong with the U.S. distributors that they're not carrying this great robot yet?!?

- Joe
Ray wrote:For RB1000, You can contact

http://www.graupner-robotics.de/

this is a company in Germany and you can download the free English Manual.

It is a pitty only RB2000 has PS2 Controller and plenty of extension board

Actually, it looks like they have the RB2000 now too: http://www.graupner-robotics.de/index.php?id=30&L=1

Thanks for the tip! Now, what's wrong with the U.S. distributors that they're not carrying this great robot yet?!?

- Joe
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Post by tempusmaster » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:17 am

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:17 am

Joe wrote:Actually, it looks like they have the RB2000 now too: http://www.graupner-robotics.de/index.php?id=30&L=1

Thanks for the tip! Now, what's wrong with the U.S. distributors that they're not carrying this great robot yet?!?

- Joe

Look at it the other way around. Perhaps you just found a great opportunity and should start distributing it... :)

Distributors are business people, and if they thought there was demand, and if the margins and manufacturer's terms were attractive, then they would sell it.

What is it that you really like about this particular design? Personally I'm not turned on by it at all. Perhaps it's because I only know three people that have bought one. Still, I have an open mind and might be convinced that it is 'great' if someone would give me some facts and a reasonable rationale.
Joe wrote:Actually, it looks like they have the RB2000 now too: http://www.graupner-robotics.de/index.php?id=30&L=1

Thanks for the tip! Now, what's wrong with the U.S. distributors that they're not carrying this great robot yet?!?

- Joe

Look at it the other way around. Perhaps you just found a great opportunity and should start distributing it... :)

Distributors are business people, and if they thought there was demand, and if the margins and manufacturer's terms were attractive, then they would sell it.

What is it that you really like about this particular design? Personally I'm not turned on by it at all. Perhaps it's because I only know three people that have bought one. Still, I have an open mind and might be convinced that it is 'great' if someone would give me some facts and a reasonable rationale.
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Post by Joe » Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:27 pm

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:27 pm

tempusmaster wrote:What is it that you really like about this particular design? Personally I'm not turned on by it at all. Perhaps it's because I only know three people that have bought one. Still, I have an open mind and might be convinced that it is 'great' if someone would give me some facts and a reasonable rationale.

Well, I'm sure you know more about that I do. But I really like that it comes in several "levels" with an upgrade path (RB300 -> RB2000 -> RB2500 -> RB2800). This lets you pay as you go, to some extent, instead of having to buy all at once. And the price at each step seems reasonable.

And the fact that the RB1000 handily beats tho KHR-2V in a footrace suggests that this is no slouch of a performer.

I'll admit that it's a bit ugly... but then, so are the KHRs, without the new body shells. (Though with them, those are beautiful robots!)

Given all that, I wonder why it's not more popular? Is there anything in particular you don't like about them?

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tempusmaster wrote:What is it that you really like about this particular design? Personally I'm not turned on by it at all. Perhaps it's because I only know three people that have bought one. Still, I have an open mind and might be convinced that it is 'great' if someone would give me some facts and a reasonable rationale.

Well, I'm sure you know more about that I do. But I really like that it comes in several "levels" with an upgrade path (RB300 -> RB2000 -> RB2500 -> RB2800). This lets you pay as you go, to some extent, instead of having to buy all at once. And the price at each step seems reasonable.

And the fact that the RB1000 handily beats tho KHR-2V in a footrace suggests that this is no slouch of a performer.

I'll admit that it's a bit ugly... but then, so are the KHRs, without the new body shells. (Though with them, those are beautiful robots!)

Given all that, I wonder why it's not more popular? Is there anything in particular you don't like about them?

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Post by Ray » Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:28 pm

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Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:28 pm

hmm,

I once had think about this question,
well, RB2000 is quit popular in Japan but not in europe and america

I personally feel that europe people like robot in a way of a more solid feel, .... I mean robot like Robonova ...
may be RB1000 and 2000 has too many holes in his leg and arm.

I don't like this too and I don't like all the wires going around the body!!

but the fact that the market only have limited robot to achieve my goal above. one of the example is Kyocho PF01. (but too limited freedom of motion)

Why they do not make full skin robot? I think manufacturing cost may be a main reason. It is hard to give robot performance when they are dressed is another reason.

VStone (Designer of OmniZero, RB1000 & RB2000 ...etc ) have designed a number of good robots, but they only release the RB series.
( Recently release their super robot "VisiON4G" )
http://www.vstone.co.jp/top/products/ro ... index.html
but in a price of an expensive car



Personally, I think RB2000 has the best walking performance and extensibility.
They are also born with PS2 that take the advantage of the mechanical fittness as well as good use of the internal parameter of the microcontroller.
Secondly, The software is the most user-friendly when compared to user interface of my other robots: such as KHR2HV, RN as well as RBT1

You may said that he RB2000 do not have learning function (capture function in RBT-1) , yes, a bit less convinence.
but when you are more professional in playing robot, you will found this is not so important.

Finally, the servo RBS581 is the fastest servo (geneally amount normal price servos in market) at reasonable price. but the disadvantage of it is very easy to heat up and burn. This is solved by RBS5802 servo.


In fact, in the long run, I expected RB2000 still, will not get so popular unless VStone extents its market and manage to make its own band of robot servo, (instead of co-operation with JR)

I think VStone must develope good servo as good as Kondo in order to get his robot significant in the robot market.
hmm,

I once had think about this question,
well, RB2000 is quit popular in Japan but not in europe and america

I personally feel that europe people like robot in a way of a more solid feel, .... I mean robot like Robonova ...
may be RB1000 and 2000 has too many holes in his leg and arm.

I don't like this too and I don't like all the wires going around the body!!

but the fact that the market only have limited robot to achieve my goal above. one of the example is Kyocho PF01. (but too limited freedom of motion)

Why they do not make full skin robot? I think manufacturing cost may be a main reason. It is hard to give robot performance when they are dressed is another reason.

VStone (Designer of OmniZero, RB1000 & RB2000 ...etc ) have designed a number of good robots, but they only release the RB series.
( Recently release their super robot "VisiON4G" )
http://www.vstone.co.jp/top/products/ro ... index.html
but in a price of an expensive car



Personally, I think RB2000 has the best walking performance and extensibility.
They are also born with PS2 that take the advantage of the mechanical fittness as well as good use of the internal parameter of the microcontroller.
Secondly, The software is the most user-friendly when compared to user interface of my other robots: such as KHR2HV, RN as well as RBT1

You may said that he RB2000 do not have learning function (capture function in RBT-1) , yes, a bit less convinence.
but when you are more professional in playing robot, you will found this is not so important.

Finally, the servo RBS581 is the fastest servo (geneally amount normal price servos in market) at reasonable price. but the disadvantage of it is very easy to heat up and burn. This is solved by RBS5802 servo.


In fact, in the long run, I expected RB2000 still, will not get so popular unless VStone extents its market and manage to make its own band of robot servo, (instead of co-operation with JR)

I think VStone must develope good servo as good as Kondo in order to get his robot significant in the robot market.
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Post by Kwan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 4:52 am

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I've just visited that Japanese store website and the RB2000 is going for cheaper than the KHR-2HV.

Do they have english support for the RB yet? And if not, would the manual be that dissimilar to the RB1000?
I've just visited that Japanese store website and the RB2000 is going for cheaper than the KHR-2HV.

Do they have english support for the RB yet? And if not, would the manual be that dissimilar to the RB1000?
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