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In browsing humanoid robots on the web,<br />there are numerous Japanese companies<br />developing humanoid robots to take care<br />of the elderly. But it's a great challenge<br />that will take time. I'm still looking for a<br />relatively simple face recognition software<br />package for my humanoids. I don't have<br />the time to invent it, and don't see anything<br />for sale. We can only wait and see.<br /><br />humanoido<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=416">Humanoido</a> — Tue Mar 13, 2007 1:47 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-10T20:11:23+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Of course, in due time, larger humanoids will have their day.<br /></div></blockquote> <br />Come on C3PO, I'm waiting on you! <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /> <br />Maybe by the time I'm ready for the &quot;old folks&quot; home I will have one to take care of me.<br />tinman<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=494">tinman1</a> — Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:11 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-10T07:19:08+01:00</updated>
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There are some humanoids with larger physical sizes. <br />Usually these have a combination of pm motors and<br />servo motors. One of the primary concerns with a<br />larger humanoid is the amperage draw from the<br />more powerful motors. For the average hobbyist,<br />cost is also a concern. Laying out a couple hundred<br />bucks or more per servo or motor is a problem. So<br />these are some reasons the larger humanoids are<br />not so common in the hobby area. Of course, in due<br />time, larger humanoids will have their day. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />humanoido<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=416">Humanoido</a> — Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:19 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-07T05:53:50+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>DerekZahn wrote:</cite><br />I wish I was going but not this time.  I'm hoping to attend the 12th Robo One though.<br /></div></blockquote><br />That would be great!  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /> <br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Is Rook's Pawn going to attend again?  I haven't seen Matt post anything here in quite a while...<br /></div></blockquote><br />Not this time around, perhaps the next competition. He's had his hands full with moving houses and starting a new business. He will be competing in the ROBO-ONE events and Robot Soccer at RoboGames in San Francisco this June.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />I'll be looking forward to all the great coverage of the event on robots-dreams!<br /></div></blockquote><br />I'll try not to disappoint you.  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> <br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />I'd really like to watch the official video coverage but I cannot figure out how to pay for it (from the Robo-One site).  There's some point in the process where you have to get your credit card company registered with some other payment handling service where you can buy a coupon that you can then use to purchase the right to watch the videos, a bizarrely complicated ritual that I can't figure out using only computer translations.<br /></div></blockquote><br />Don't feel bad. Most people here can't figure it out either. It's run by a third party - one of the ROBO-ONE sponsors, and the micropayments system they picked is hard to use, even if you know Japanese.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Should be an exciting event!<br /></div></blockquote><br />The performance they have been able to achieve is really climbing, and there are a lot more entries. Actually, with 186 entries I'm not sure how they will manage to go through all the demonstration judging on the first day. Assuming everyone passes the pre-qualification, which perhaps 10-15% of them won't, that would be 186 X 2 minutes which is over six hours of demonstrations if they ran them back to back with no break and no delays. They will have to change to a new format completely by the time ROBO-ONE 12 rolls around.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />As I understand it, they have split into two weight classes and the dividing line is 3.0 kg.  Oddly, it seems that almost all the entries are under 3.0 kg, so the &quot;heavy&quot; class will be rather empty.<br /></div></blockquote><br />It's natural since almost all of the robots have been around 2.0 kg. The Koreans have entered some heavy (massive) robots before, and will probably dominate the &gt;3.0 kg weight class in the beginning.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Either people will catch on and start building heavier robots or they will lower the weight cutoff.<br /></div></blockquote><br />They have talked about adding additional weight classes - both lighter and heavier. As the total number of entries continues to grow it's a natural way to keep things fair. Nishimura has even joked about a 100 kg weight class.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />I imagine they might be aiming for a class of measurably larger robots, but it might be too difficult for hobbyists to build those as there aren't many off the shelf parts to use (though I have been thinking about it myself and even collecting a few bits and pieces here and there).<br /></div></blockquote><br />Go for it!  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=56">tempusmaster</a> — Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:53 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-07T03:21:55+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>srobot wrote:</cite><br />Where do you see this? Can you please post a link?<br /></div></blockquote><br />Um, sure: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robo-one.ibee.ne.jp/movie.html">http://robo-one.ibee.ne.jp/movie.html</a><!-- m --><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11">DerekZahn</a> — Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:21 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-07T02:38:59+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>DerekZahn wrote:</cite><br />I'd really like to watch the official video coverage but I cannot figure out how to pay for it (from the Robo-One site).  There's some point in the process where you have to get your credit card company registered with some other payment handling service where you can buy a coupon that you can then use to purchase the right to watch the videos, a bizarrely complicated ritual that I can't figure out using only computer translations.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Where do you see this? Can you please post a link?<br /><br />Thank you,<br />--Scotty<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=419">srobot</a> — Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:38 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-06T16:35:55+01:00</updated>
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I wish I was going but not this time.  I'm hoping to attend the 12th Robo One though.<br /><br />Is Rook's Pawn going to attend again?  I haven't seen Matt post anything here in quite a while...<br /><br />I'll be looking forward to all the great coverage of the event on robots-dreams!<br /><br />I'd really like to watch the official video coverage but I cannot figure out how to pay for it (from the Robo-One site).  There's some point in the process where you have to get your credit card company registered with some other payment handling service where you can buy a coupon that you can then use to purchase the right to watch the videos, a bizarrely complicated ritual that I can't figure out using only computer translations.<br /><br />Should be an exciting event!  <br /><br />As I understand it, they have split into two weight classes and the dividing line is 3.0 kg.  Oddly, it seems that almost all the entries are under 3.0 kg, so the &quot;heavy&quot; class will be rather empty.  Either people will catch on and start building heavier robots or they will lower the weight cutoff.  I imagine they might be aiming for a class of measurably larger robots, but it might be too difficult for hobbyists to build those as there aren't many off the shelf parts to use (though I have been thinking about it myself and even collecting a few bits and pieces here and there).<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=11">DerekZahn</a> — Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:35 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-06T10:51:32+01:00</updated>
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Considering the winning money, it would be worth it to get in some practice. Just browsing some of the humanoid entries, looks like some very clever designs - even double servos in the legs to greatly increase speed! That one was new to me. It's becoming a tough competition which makes it all the more challenging.<br /><br />humanoido<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=416">Humanoido</a> — Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:51 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-05T14:57:06+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>Humanoido wrote:</cite><br />There will be the 11th ROBO-ONE meeting ( competition ) at Tokyo on 24th and 25th March.<br /><a href="http://robo-one.com/roboone/roboone11.html" class="postlink">http://robo-one.com/roboone/roboone11.html</a><br /><br />Let us know if you plan attending.<br /><br />humanoido<br /></div></blockquote><br />I'll be there from start to finish every day.<br /><br />Also, from now until the event, Kondo Robo Spot is holding <a href="http://www.robospot.jp/html/robospot_sparring.html" class="postlink">practice meetings every Saturday and Sunday</a> for the competitors. They charge 500 yen/hour, but it's definitely worth it to be able to get some practice time in.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=56">tempusmaster</a> — Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:57 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-05T09:16:32+01:00</updated>
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There will be the 11th ROBO-ONE meeting ( competition ) at Tokyo on 24th and 25th March.<br /><a href="http://robo-one.com/roboone/roboone11.html" class="postlink">http://robo-one.com/roboone/roboone11.html</a><br /><br />Let us know if you plan attending.<br /><br />humanoido<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=416">Humanoido</a> — Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:16 am</p><hr />
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