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<updated>2010-01-04T17:36:45+01:00</updated>
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While awaiting for my robot khr2 I been searching for answers on how to Bluetooth rcb3j with pc. None exists. So I probAbly need to order a rev1 soon from hotproceed?  Also find out need to buy another kid before I can program the robot autonmously. Very expensive. All these comes as standard in robobuilder and bioloid I think or can be upgrade cheaply. Starting to regret a bit. Let's hope I won't when it arrives. One thing I definely do is to upgrade the hip. Let's get it walking first. Also cannot do catch And play. Ummm<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1861">UncleBob</a> — Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:36 pm</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[PedroR]]></name></author>
<updated>2009-12-30T15:31:54+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T15:31:54+01:00</published>
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Hi<br /><br />I believe when you say &quot;remote Antenna&quot; you are referring to KRR-1.<br /><br />This is a Radio Control for the computer.<br /><br />There is KRC-3AD that is a handheld remote control and there is the KRR-1 where, instead of having a handheld remote, you connect the antenna to the pc and control the robot from the pc over the wireless connection.<br /><br />With regards installing the Bluetooth controller, I must say I am not familiar with this solution.<br />I have also read about it but I am not familiar with it.<br /><br />Regards<br />Pedro<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:31 pm</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[UncleBob]]></name></author>
<updated>2009-12-30T15:11:16+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T15:11:16+01:00</published>
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Hi Pedro<br /><br />Looks like I am ordering the Kondo. KRS2. <br /><br />I don't want to spend a lot of money buying the remote. Is there a hack to install a bluetooth module so I can send command via notebook. Also perhaps program the robot via bluetooth.  <br /><br />I notice many Kondo has a remote antenae. What is it for? Thanks<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1861">UncleBob</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:11 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T11:46:43+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T11:46:43+01:00</published>
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Ok I am almost convince. Thanks Pedro.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1861">UncleBob</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:46 am</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[PedroR]]></name></author>
<updated>2009-12-30T12:04:42+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T11:42:15+01:00</published>
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The Robot can be purchased without any extras.<br />It will work well.<br /><br />The purpose of the gyro and acc sensors is stabilize the walk Dynamically and be able to get up automatically when it falls.<br /><br />However if you want to start simple, you can start with the base kit. It will work and will let you program motions onto the robot and play them.<br /><br />With regards to building and calibrating, Kondo solution is indeed very unique but it is also very well thought.<br />You do have an extra step with setting the home position but once you master that, the quality of Kondo robots is Excellent.<br /><br />When you ask how it compares to a Robonova, that's a tough question. I never had any extended period using either of them (just quick encounters with them).<br />The idea that I have is that Kondo is a great robot for those who want a Robot to do tricks/maneuvers/gaits.<br />It has the excellent Japanese build quality and Kondo is perceived as one of the best brands in the Humanoid world.<br /><br />You can have a look at the KHR 2HV assembly manual as well as the software manual (Heart to Heart 3) here <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/RoboSavvyPages/Support/Kondo/">http://robosavvy.com/RoboSavvyPages/Support/Kondo/</a><!-- m --><br />This will let you have an idea about how the robot is assembled and programmed.<br /><br />Regards<br />Pedro.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:42 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T11:36:50+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T11:36:50+01:00</published>
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<title type="html"><![CDATA[Keep the initial cost down]]></title>

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Hi Pedro<br /><br />if I buy the KHR 2HV without the gyro and accelerarometer and icu cable. Will it work or will it fall over ? I can buy those silently later. I also notice it is very hard to build and calibrate. How is it compare to robonova?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1861">UncleBob</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:36 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T11:18:08+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T11:18:08+01:00</published>
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Hi UncleBob<br /><br />With regards to Robobuilder 5710, yes it includes 2 sensors (Sound Sensor , Distance Sensor (offer from Robosavvy)) and includes the Accelerometer (another offer from Robosavvy).<br /><br />The reason why people are selling their Robonovas is because the robot has been around for quite come time now and many people have had for many years now.<br />I think the reason they are selling is because, having had the robot for so long, it is no longer a novelty for them and it's still worth some money,<br />Servo power power for Robonova I believe is at a good level, inline with other offers in the same price range.<br /><br /><br /><br />With regards to the KHR 2HV, I believe we currently have ONE unit in stock.<br />It is available to be purchased either stand alone or as part of our Christmas Sale (which includes all the sensors/gyros, a nice Genex suit for modding and some other extras).<br /><span style="font-style: italic">(The Christmas Sale pack will end by the beginning of January.)</span><br /><br />Also note that on Dec 31st (tomorrow), British VAT goes back to 17.5% (it is 15% now).<br />If you are in a country inside the EU, this means all the prices on our website will increase by 2.5%.<br />If you are outside the EU you won't be affected by this change (prices will not change) as you always pay the lower price (without VAT).<br /><br />Regards<br />Pedro.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:18 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T04:28:22+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T04:28:22+01:00</published>
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Hi Pedro<br /><br />I just find out that KHR-2HV could be within my budget US$1,066.52. (I thin my wife will still kill me seeing the receipt). I have got RC gyro at home, maybe I can use them.  I find the Kondo made out of metal and better, plus more flexible which is needed for martial art. I particularly want to train it using some martial art weapons. See how difficult it gets. <br /><br />Or<br /><br />The Robobuilder 5710, include sensor + accelerometer. Right ?<br /><br />or <br /><br />The robonova which is well within my budget but seeing many people selling it maybe due lack of servo power.<br /><br />Can you confirm me the price is still correct and have stock ? <br /><br />Thanks<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1861">UncleBob</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:28 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-28T11:11:36+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-28T11:11:36+01:00</published>
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Hi UncleBob<br /><br />From what you say, I understand you are looking at a Robot for programming moves (kicking, fighting, etc).<br />The difference to Bioloid PREMIUM is that this robot is tailored not only for programming moves but also to program behaviors (autonomous behaviors with plenty of sensors).<br />For this reason it comes with more sensors than Robobuilder (including a full featured 6 axis IMU) and the USB2Dynamixel for direct communication and control of the servos.<br />It does not have any metal frames so if you're planning some heavy duty use for the robot you may be better suited with robots that have metal frames or can be extended with something like that.<br /><br /><br />- Robobuilder with: Metal Joints OR Metal Brackets Kit (if you'll be giving it very heavy use).<br />We also supply spare parts in case you need them (spare joint sets and spare gears).<br />This is a good choice for budget and will work well for your purpose. It is also a great choice for entering the Humanoid World.<br /><br /><span style="color: green">Robobuilder: </span>http://robosavvy.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=robobuilder<br /><span style="color: green">Metal Joints Option for improved strength: </span><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/609">http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... cts_id/609</a><!-- m --><br /><span style="color: green">Metal Brackets Option (for best strength and reliability) </span> <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/533">http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... cts_id/533</a><!-- m --><br /><br />- If you're only looking for a Robot to program motions and gaits, the Kondo KHR 2HV is likely one of the best choices.<br /><br />Given Kondo's background, people who come from RC hobbies usually like Kondo robots very much.<br />The KHR 2HV is also a very good robot for programming gaits/motions because it has very good weight distribution and well positioned center of gravity which results in better results in acrobatic motions/gaits.<br />It also comes with Metal Brackets by default.<br /><br /><span style="color: green">KHR 2HV</span>: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/92">http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... ucts_id/92</a><!-- m --><br /><br /><span style="color: green">Special Edition/Bundle of KHR 2HV with lots of extras</span>: <br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info.php/products_id/604">http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... cts_id/604</a><!-- m --><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Mon Dec 28, 2009 11:11 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-27T05:57:39+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-27T05:57:39+01:00</published>
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Hi <br /><br />I am also a remote helicopter guy and also like to get a robot. RoboBuilder is very amazing, it is the first robot I have seen that can do kicks. I like to program my robot to do MMA tricks and perhaps fight like the UFC. So maybe aluminium is better than plastic in fight?<br /><br />The most expensive robot in the market is the Bioloid premium. May I ask how does that compare with Bioliod comprehensive and the other robots mention above. <br /><br />I particularly like  the motion builder in Bioliod. I watch their demo video. It makes robot much more fun. Can all the other robots be program this way. I have programming background but I hate to program in C. Eventhough I haven't program in Basic in a decade I think I can still do it.<br /><br />RoboBuilder is very good value for money and now wire hanging loose. <br /><br />Which one should I buy ? and do I need to order easy breaking parts too.<br /><br />Thanks<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1861">UncleBob</a> — Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:57 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-10-13T08:17:35+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-10-13T08:17:35+01:00</published>
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YES !<br /><br />Robonova is coming  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> <br /><br />I think one of the first extensions will be the voice recognition  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /> <br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Bernard<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1715">Crenwick</a> — Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:17 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-10-12T10:59:44+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-10-12T10:59:44+01:00</published>
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Hi Bernard<br /><br />I already saw you have made your choice for the Robonova.<br />I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />With regards to accessories we hope you come back in the near future for extensions for your RN-1.<br />Extending the robot is also a great part of the fun. IN particular de Voice Recognition module is very impressive.<br /><br />I would also recommend the gyro and the accelerometer at a later stage.<br /><br />With regards to your question - &quot;who is Limor?&quot; - he's our CEO on Robosavvy.<br /><br />Regards<br />Pedro.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:59 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-10-10T05:54:20+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-10-10T05:54:20+01:00</published>
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Hi,<br /><br />Yes, BASIC is not a problem for me (i made some projects with PIC's in BASIC) and I think that it's easyer for me to learn to my son than C  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /> <br /><br />I read through the Robobasic manual and options like setup gyros and LCD seems to be easy for me. I think it will be the beginning of a great adventure for my son and I  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /> <br /><br />I will go for Robonova  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /> <br /><br />@PedroR : Do you know who is Limor ?  <br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Bernard<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1715">Crenwick</a> — Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:54 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-10-09T22:17:34+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-10-09T22:17:34+01:00</published>
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From the spec it looks like you could connect the VR module to Robobuilder - you would need to make up a lead, but it could connect directly onto the RBC controller via the wcK BUS. It communicates at 115200 baud which is compatible.  The programming would be more complicated, and you would have to program Robobuilder in C using the supplied libraries. You might even be able to control from the PC using direct mode (and over bluetooth if you get the optional BT module). <br /><br />Personally I like and own Robobuilder - its the lego of the robot world, where as Robonova seems more like the Meccano. Both clearly have their merits and I'm sure you'll have fun with either.<br /><br />cheers<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1101">l3v3rz</a> — Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:17 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-10-09T16:44:44+01:00</updated>
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Hi<br /><br />Indeed the software for Robonova is easier to learn.<br /><br />Also, the voice recognition module is only available for Robonova, not Robobuilder.<br /><br />If you have a technical background and already use R/C planes and helicopters you should then enjoy the Robonova.<br />One more question: are you confortable with programming in BASIC (roboBASIC) or learning it?<br />It is required to take full advantage of Robonova and that's where Robonova is excellent compared to other robots.<br /><br />Pedro.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:44 pm</p><hr />
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