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The blinking cursor on black background is an issue that has never been observed before...<br /><br />When are you seeing it?<br /><br />1) When first booting from CDRom ?<br />2) Or after completing the first part of the setup, restarting and on the first boot from Hard Drive to continue the installation?<br /><br /><br />If it's the first then you need to go into the BIOS, and change the USB mode to &quot;Full Speed&quot; (which is v1.1 - 11 mbps).<br />The Roboard can't boot from CDRoms if you've enabled USB 2.0 in the BIOS.<br /><br />If it's the second make sure you have the boot order correctly set up on the BIOS.<br />Make sure the SD card is set as the primary boot device and also, disconnect the USB CDRom drive and any other USB device.<br /><br /><br />Also the board takes some time to boot. It is an embedded 486 class board so you need to understand it won't run as fast as your superscalar Core 2 processor with quite a few pipelines...<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:38 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-20T22:50:41+01:00</updated>
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I still get the blinking curser on black background.  Can not get it to boot up.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1632">goofylogic98</a> — Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:50 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-08T21:54:55+01:00</updated>
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Hi Pedro, thanks for mentioning it <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" />.<br />Already put it in the driver section of my installation folder!<br /><br />Greetings,<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:54 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-08T14:13:06+01:00</updated>
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Hi ries<br /><br />If you are using nLite <span style="text-decoration: underline">make sure you use the modified IDE drivers that you can download from our forum</span>.<br /><br />The original IDE drivers that you download from the DMP website will not work with nLite (you'll get a 0x7B Blue screen when booting for the graphical part of the installation).<br /><br />To avoid it, please use the drivers we (Robosavvy( have developped and made available on the forum.<br /><br />Regards<br />Pedro.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:13 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-08T13:59:53+01:00</updated>
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Hi Sniperscope,<br /><br />Thanks for the reply. <br />I have ordered a roboard and was already trying out how to install windows on a micro sd-card.<br /><br />I got it bootable but couldn't install windows xp, so i tried nlite os.<br />For me this tool works better, i could slipstream service pack2, the drivers necessary for my laptop and tweaked the windows version.<br />With the nlite tool i also burned a bootable cd-rom. I even could install that tweaked version on my laptop.<br /><br />For the roboard im gonna make a windows xp build with the minimum of tools/drivers/language/keyboard/programs and burn it to a cd. And install it the micro sd-card on the roboard.<br />Hopefully this approach works for me.<br /><br />Next is to make a visual studio 2005 program to test the roboard in combination with my KHR-1HV.<br /><br />Greetings,<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:59 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-07T11:56:23+01:00</updated>
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Hello ries: I pretty much installed following the instructions from the RoBoard site using a 4 gig micro card. I could not get it to work any other way. Right now I'm still working on my Mech project. The weapon systems that came in are going to be cut down a bit to match the size of my bot. Will post pictures as soon as I have something to show. <br />Regards to all.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1367">sniperscope</a> — Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:56 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-06T23:57:21+01:00</updated>
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i think there's a bit of confusion about the purpose of BartPE:<br /><br />Using BartPE to install Windows XP is not really the purpose of BartPE nor the purpose of using BartPE on the roboard.<br /><br />I have tried the tutorial you mention and although I was able to go through the first half of the install (meaning if you aregetting winnt32.exe not found you probably did something wrong; it's not a Roboard issue because I was able to get past that) I couldn't go through the whole thing at the time because I hadn't developped the modified IDE drivers yet.<br /><br />In any case, the bestis really to use an external CDROM to install Windows XP.<br /><br />BartPE was my suggestion to all those who want to wnat to run a lightweight, highly optmized version of the Windows Kernel.<br />This means, with BartPE you make the BartPE build and there is NO windows install to the sd card.<br />Once you have built BartPE on your local PC, run the pe2usb on your local PC to copy the BartPE the files to your SD card, you're good to go. Just insert the SD card and boot the Roboard.<br />The functionality that will be available will depend on the plug ins you installed and the drivers you added when building BartPE on your local PC.<br /><br /><br />If your purpose is to run a full / complete windows install then don't use BartPE.<br />Use a USB CDRom and install Windows from CD on the Roboard.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:57 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-06T11:28:13+01:00</updated>
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Hi Sniperscope,<br /><br />and did you find a way to install windows xp on the micro sd-card?<br /><br />I'm also trying to do this and I get stuck at how to install windows on a micro sd-card.<br />I use BartPE and the micro sd-card is bootable and will start with BartPE.<br /><br />I have even tried to copy the \i386 folder to the sd-card as written by<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-windows-xp-from-usb/">http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-wi ... -from-usb/</a><!-- m --><br />but when using step 6:<br />D:\i386\winnt32.exe /syspart:C: /tempdrive:C: /makelocalsource. Replace C: with the drive you want to install Windows to<br /><br />where the system says that there is no winnt32.exe :S<br /><br />So what are the correct steps to install windows on the micro sd-card with BartPE<br /><br />Many thanks in advance,<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:28 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-07T13:34:24+01:00</updated>
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UPDATE: Step 6 would not work for me. I get a fast message and nothing else. I installed ramdisk.sys from another program and then ran step 10 which worked great. <br /><br />Upon completing step 11 I inserted the microdrive and booted up Roboard. I get a blinking underscore against a black screen but nothing else happens. I will continue my re-search and report back. <br />John<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1367">sniperscope</a> — Sun Jun 07, 2009 1:34 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-06T12:18:09+01:00</updated>
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Hello PedroR: UPDATE: I have followed the instrucitons to the letter and have created the build. <br /><br />Now I should simply copy the BartPE folder to my microcard and boot up Roboard? Or am I missing something. <br />Thanks <br />John<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1367">sniperscope</a> — Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:18 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-04T15:59:28+01:00</updated>
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Thanks. Will continue tonight and learn as I go along. Since the Mirco Cards are so darn cheap now going to buy an extra one for this process since I already have my Roboard working.......I just want it working faster hahaha. <br />John<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1367">sniperscope</a> — Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:59 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-04T14:57:18+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Questions: <br />1- The file you made for the Roboard. I attempted to add that file as a plug in which BartPE would not allow me to do. So instead, I copied and pasted the 3 files to the root directory of the build file. Is this correct?<br /></div></blockquote><br />The file we created is not a plug in. It is a modified version of the IDE drivers that allow slipstreaming and using BartPE.<br />You just need to extract the contents of the ZIP file into &quot;C:\pebuilder3110a\drivers\SCSIAdapter&quot; (adjust the path if you did not install BartPE to C:\pebuilder3110a).<br />When you build make sure it reports no errors, about any of the IDe driver files.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />2- I missed a step by not installing windows 2003 server service park 1. To be honest, I'm moving this whole process from my Vista desktop to my Windows XP laptop in case I screw up. Just to be clear, the term UNPACKING an exe file using the -x command at the end will allow me to install the files to folder and not start the install process on my PC?<br /></div></blockquote><br />You will NOT install the Windows Server 2003 SP onto your computer (it won't let you even if you try). <br />By using the -x switch it will only extract the files to a folder. You can do it on any computer. Vista works as well. Because it's a simple extract (just like extracting a ZIP file) nothing in your computer is changed.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Now let's lets fast forward where I have a new build made with all the requirements listed above. I then transfer that file to my micro SD card via my reader?<br /></div></blockquote><br />Yes. Once you're done, you transfer the installation onto your SD card using the SD card reader.<br />I have tested that procedure using a USB thumb drive but I assume it also works on a USB card reader given they use the same mass storage device architecture of Windows.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />4- If yes, how do I start the install process within the build folder now in the mirco SD card?<br /></div></blockquote><br />To transfer the files, you need to use a tool called pe2USB. Please see Steo 2, item 10 here <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-windows-xp-from-usb/">http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-wi ... -from-usb/</a><!-- m --><br />If you got the Roboard from us you should have received a 1Gb SD card which is perfect for this task. <br />(the pe2usb tool *may* be unable to work with drivers larger than 1Gb)<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />5- Overall I know I am missing a few steps and just need to clear up a few unknowns as this is the very first time I try something like this. <br />My personal opinion so far is that clearly your install process (once I get the hang of it) will greatly enhance my Roboard in regards to speed.<br /></div></blockquote><br />Getting to know BartPE may require a bit of trying and testing, specially when you start adding plug ins.<br />I myself am only familiar up to the point of creating a basic bootable system.<br />Putting a basic setup up and running is not hard and you have asked about everything you need to know <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />However you'll want to start adding other things as you go such as VB runtime files, maybe UltraVNC, etc. <br />The upside is that there a TON of documentation, forum threads, etc on the Internet asking just about each and every modification or situation with BartPE <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />TIP: Using a VirtualMachine is also useful in testing phases when adding plugins. You set everything up and build an ISO for BartPE. You then boot the iso on the virtual machine to test it.<br />Once you come a fully functional confguration you make the final build and put it on the SD card for the Roboard.<br /><br />As I mentioned the Roboard is on the side currently as other projects have come up but I'll be glad to help you with all your questions.<br />Once I have the time, I'll try to put it all in a step by step tuturial with lots of screenshots!<br /><br />I can confirm and assure you that the running barte on the roboard is waaayyy faster and let's you take the best advantage of the board's features.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:57 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-04T13:01:31+01:00</updated>
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Good Morning PedroR: Well, last night I made conducted my first attempt to familiarize myself with BartPE. I took the following steps. <br />A- Installed BartPE<br /><br />B- Copied my CD WindowsXP to a folder on my desktop. My ver. of windows has the file WIN51P.SP1<br /><br />C- Started BartPE search, which found the WinCD folder on my desktop allowing me the option for a build.<br /><br />D- I took at look at the plug-in's option just to familiarize and could see what BartPE is skipping to keep the install with a small footprint. <br /><br />E- I made the build to a directory just to see how things went, there were no errors. <br /><br />Questions:<br />1- The file you made for the Roboard. I attempted to add that file as a plug in which BartPE would not allow me to do. So instead, I copied and pasted the 3 files to the root directory of the build file. Is this correct?<br /><br />2- I missed a step by not installing  windows 2003 server service park 1. To be honest, I'm moving this whole process from my Vista desktop to my Windows XP laptop in case I screw up.  Just to be clear, the term UNPACKING an exe file using the -x command at the end will allow me to install the files to folder and not start the install process on my PC?<br /><br />3- Now let's lets fast forward where I have a new build made with all the requirements listed above. I then transfer that file to my micro SD card via my reader? <br /><br />4- If yes, how do I start the install process within the build folder now in the mirco SD card?<br /><br />5- Overall I know I am missing a few steps and just need  to clear up a few unknowns as this is the very first time I try something like this. <br />My personal opinion so far is that clearly your install process (once I get the hang of it) will greatly enhance my Roboard in regards to speed. <br />Thanks<br />John<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1367">sniperscope</a> — Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:01 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-03T12:52:28+01:00</updated>
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Hi John<br /><br />If you have any questions please let me know.<br /><br />For BartPE on the Roboard I STRONGLY recommend your start with this tutorial here <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-windows-xp-from-usb/">http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-wi ... -from-usb/</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Just follow Step 1 and Step 2.<br />The other steps are not important for what you want to do.<br /><br />Don't be fooled by the title: the important thing is that the tuturial explains how to build BartPE and have it boot from USB (or SD card in our case).<br /><br />I have tested with USB but I'm quite confident you can use a card reader and use your SD card instead.<br /><br />You will also need to use the option in BartPE to include the IDE drivers. You may try with the ones from Roboard (which I'm not sure will work properly) or instead use the ones we modified at Robosavvy: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/Builders/PedroR/Roboard_IDE_TextMode_RobosavvyFix.zip">http://robosavvy.com/Builders/PedroR/Ro ... vvyFix.zip</a><!-- m --><br /><br />I have tested these with nLite on Win XP english, SP3. I'm confident they'll also work with BartPE.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:52 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-06-02T17:59:26+01:00</updated>
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PedroR: After thinking about it I am going to try and learn how to do the install using BartPE/slipstream etc. All new to me so I have a little bit of a learning curve to master first. <br />Regards<br />John<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1367">sniperscope</a> — Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:59 pm</p><hr />
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