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<updated>2009-09-11T18:15:59+01:00</updated>
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Hi Roboard,<br /><br />after mailing with the tech department of roboard, they will sent me some LS04 components. I have agreed that I will solder them on the board myself since we have an electronic workshop at my work.<br />Saves the trouble of sending the board to them.<br /><br />Thanks for your help and advice, hopefully the problems are solved next week when the components arrive.<br /><br />And many thanks for the service!!<br /><br />Best regards,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:15 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-09-05T15:39:26+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>ries wrote:</cite><br />maybe you could send me the location and the type of the pull up inverters.<br />I can replace them myself since at work we have the tools for that.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Hi, ries,<br />the PWM pull-up inverters are contained in a 7404 IC. You can find the IC in the backside of RoBoard. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1542">roboard</a> — Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:39 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-09-04T13:21:53+01:00</updated>
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Hi Roboard,<br /><br />Mailed the tech department of roboard.<br />Hope to hear something soon.<br /><br />If you think the pull-up inverter of the board is broken, maybe you could send me the location and the type of the pull up inverters.<br />I can replace them myself since at work we have the tools for that.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:21 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-09-04T10:24:39+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>ries wrote:</cite><br />I have measured the reserve pin of the I2C/SPI connector.<br />It is measuring a 100mV.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Hi, ries,<br /><br />The PWM pull-up inverter of your RoBoard for PWM channel 0~7 should be broken or shorten to GND. You can try the capture function on PWM channel 15 or 23 to see whether the other PWM pull-up inverters also don't work.<br /><br />If you need to repair your borad, you can send a mail to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tech@roboard.com">tech@roboard.com</a><!-- e -->, and there will be people to help you. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1542">roboard</a> — Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:24 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-09-03T08:16:37+01:00</updated>
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Dear Roboard,<br /><br />Sry for the late reply, i have been a couple of days away for work.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Please measure the voltage of the &quot;Reserve&quot; pin at the I2C/SPI connector (refer to the RB-100 HW introduction slides) under WinXP. If it is high, then your GPIO36 pin may be anomalistic; if it is low, then your PWM pull-up inverter may be bad<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I have measured the reserve pin of the I2C/SPI connector.<br />It is measuring a 100mV.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:16 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-09-01T01:52:53+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>ries wrote:</cite><br />Are the KRS-40xx series also supported with capturing?<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Hi,<br />in our test, RoBoRC.exe can capture the feedback of KRS-4024. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1542">roboard</a> — Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:52 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-31T19:12:37+01:00</updated>
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Dear Roboard,<br /><br />Thanks for this update. I shall measure tonight.<br /><br />Are the KRS-40xx series also supported with capturing?<br /><br />In the KHR-1HV there are 2 KRS-4024 servo's and when capturing the readings are zero.<br />But when altering the captured text file i can move those servo's.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:12 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-31T08:43:14+01:00</updated>
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Hi, ries,<br /><br />I have tested the RoBoRC.exe with KRS-788HV again, and it works.<br /><br />It seems that your RoBoard has some trouble on either its GPIO36 pin or its PWM pull-up inverter.<br /><br />Please measure the voltage of the &quot;Reserve&quot; pin at the I2C/SPI connector (refer to the RB-100 HW introduction slides) under WinXP. If it is high, then your GPIO36 pin may be anomalistic; if it is low, then your PWM pull-up inverter may be bad. You can mail to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tech@roboard.com">tech@roboard.com</a><!-- e --> for fixing your board.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1542">roboard</a> — Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:43 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-30T16:18:04+01:00</updated>
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Dear Roboard,<br /><br />the voltage measured on the GPIO00 IN is 6.7mV (so it's 0V).<br /><br />I have measured the output pin of the RCB3 board of the KHR-1HV (the robot that's gonna get the roboard) and it's 5V<br />So i hope the khr-788HV is TTL compliant.<br /><br />Hope this will help!<br /><br />Regards,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:18 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-30T15:48:12+01:00</updated>
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Dear Roboard,<br /><br />I must let you know I appreciate the help you're offering very much!<br />A very good service, even on a sunday you're given your help.<br /><br />Again thanks very much and i'm gonna test what you wrote and let you know the outcome.<br /><br />At the moment in the bios i have set the ports to GPIO. This is ok?<br />I read in the manual about GPIO and than about PWM.<br />Or should I set the ports to PWM?<br /><br />Regards and many thanks for your help.<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:48 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-30T14:13:18+01:00</updated>
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Hi, ries,<br /><br />RoBoRC.exe records error messages in &quot;roboard.log&quot;. When RoBoRC.exe fails, you can see the cause in that file.<br /><br />3.3V is ok for KRS-788. We have previously tested RoBoRC.exe with  KRS-788 and see that it works. I will make the same test again for you, and will report the result tomorrow. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />Also, to help locating your RoBoard problem, please do the following steps on your RoBoard:<br /><br />1. remove KRS-788 from RoBoard.<br />2. set GPIO Port 0 Bit 0 as &quot;IN&quot; (input) in BIOS.<br />3. boot into WinXP.<br />4. measure the voltage of GPIO pin 0 (PWM channel 0).<br />5. report the voltage value to us.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1542">roboard</a> — Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:13 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-29T19:44:03+01:00</updated>
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Hi Roboard, thanks for the reply.<br /><br />I reinstalled windows xp sp2 again.<br /><br />1. I did see another error on my laptop when initializing the rcservo lib: <br />RoBoRC.exe capture 0000.txt -ch ffffffff<br />Open 0000.txt to write... file already exists. overwirte? (Y/N) ...success<br />Initializing RCSERVO lib (for KONDO KRS-786 &amp; KRS-788)......fail!<br />But this doesn't really matter.<br /><br />2. Tried a lot, even a new xp install (sp2) but I still need the manifest together with the 3 dll's (msvcm80.dll, msvcp80.dll, msvcr80.dll).<br />But at the moment this solution works.<br /><br />3. Done all that. Switch is in pull down position. GPIO36 = 0.<br />GPIO00-07 = out=0;GPIO10-17 = out=0; GPIO20-27 = out=0;<br /><br />Compiled your code on my laptop and run it on my RB100.<br />When measuring the GPIO00 it reads 3.3V. So i assume its CMOS.<br />I have changed your program so i can set the GPIO00 to low and this works as well.<br /><br />Full of hope and running the roborc.exe... nothing happens.<br />I still get the error fail to read the position of channel 0.<br /><br /> Is the 3.3V output voltage on the GPIO too low for the KRS-788HV servo's?<br /><br />Could you throw in some more ideas?<br /><br />Regards<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:44 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-10-06T04:01:05+01:00</updated>
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Hi,<br /><br />1.<br />RoBoRC.exe can only run on your laptop without arguments (to see help messages). Running RoBoRC.exe with arguments on a laptop, you will get an error message in roboard.log: <br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">ERROR: RCSERVO lib fails to initialize (unrecognized CPU)!</span><br /><br />2.<br />For the manifest problem, if you install VC2005 SP1 Redistributable Package in RoBoard, you should be able to launch RoBoRC.exe directly (without copying any manifest crt folder).<br /><br />3.<br />Please ensure that in RoBoard BIOS, Bit 6 of Port 3 is set to 0 and that you download the newest RoBoIO binary. Then try the following code to see whether the GPIO function works.<br /><br /><dl class="codebox"><dt>Code: </dt><dd><code>#include &quot;stdafx.h&quot; <br />#include &lt;stdio.h&gt;<br />#include &lt;conio.h&gt;<br /><br />#include &quot;roboard_dll.h&quot; <br /><br />int main&#40;void&#41; <br />&#123; <br />    if &#40;rcservo_Initialize&#40;RCSERVO_USENOCHANNEL&#41;&#41; &#123; <br />        printf&#40;&quot;set GPIO pin 0 &#40;PWM channel 0&#41; to high\n&quot;&#41;;<br />        rcservo_Outp&#40;0,1&#41;; <br />        getch&#40;&#41;;<br /><br />        printf&#40;&quot;Close the above test\n&quot;&#41;;<br />        rcservo_Close&#40;&#41;; <br />    &#125; <br /><br />    return 0; <br />&#125; </code></dd></dl><br /><br />An additional remark: if you use the RoBoIO DLL version, you need to copy RoBoIO.dll to the folder of your test program.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1542">roboard</a> — Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:43 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-27T20:13:02+01:00</updated>
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Dear Roboard,<br /><br />I didn't had the time yet to figure out the manifest problem.<br />But when trying the roboard as is (with the manifest crt folder copied into the same folder as where roborc.exe is located) I can't read the <br />ERROR: failed to read the position of channel 0.<br /><br />I have KONDO KRS-788 installed on channel 0.<br /><br />The command given is: roborc.exe CAPTURE 0000.txt -CH 000000ff<br />channels 0-7 give the above error and the rest of the channels give a zero.<br /><br />What am I doing wrong here?<br /><br />&lt;edit&gt;<br />More info about my problem: according to the manual roboard_training_sw_v15.pdf page 41&amp;42 i have put the pull down/pull up switch to pull down and set the bios items accordingly.<br />Measuring with a voltmeter the voltage on the pwm pin 0 is zero volt.<br /><br />I have written a test program to put a 'high' on pwm pin 0,<br />But the pin didn't go high.<br />My test program:<br /><br />#include &quot;stdafx.h&quot;<br />#include &quot;roboard_dll.h&quot;<br /><br />int main(void)<br />{<br />if (rcservo_Initialize(RCSERVO_USECHANNEL1)) {<br />while(1) {<br />rcservo_Outp(0,1);<br />}<br />rcservo_Close();<br />}<br /><br />return 0;<br />}<br /><br />I use VC2005 on my laptop and copy the .exe from the release folder to the roboard.<br /><br />Page 52 of the above mentioned manual says that RoBoIO recognizes Roboard's CPU, and doesn't run on other PC.<br />But i can start the .exe on my laptop????<br />Do I build the .exe wrongly?<br />What am I doing wrong......<br /><br />Pls advice, thanks!<br />&lt;/edit&gt;<br /><br />Greetings,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:13 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-08-25T07:13:44+01:00</updated>
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Hi Roboard,<br /><br />Im only using vc2005, I dont have vc2008 <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" />.<br /><br />But could it be that the manifest and the crt are not 'seen' by the software?<br />Maybe the path is incorrect.<br />Currently im away from work so hopefully tomorrow I can check why I need to put to folders in my roborc.exe folder.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Ries<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=837">ries</a> — Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:13 am</p><hr />
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