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They all suffer the same problem. Bluetooth has byte gaps and latency problems. This can cause data problems on those robots that have a very strict timing protocol. <br /><br />If your robot doesn't have a strict timing then it may work.<br /><br />Any system that waits for a byte to arrive before txing to the receiver and re-transmitting will have this problem. All packetised systems work this way, Radio Telemetry, Bluetooth and WiFi all wait for a full byte or even a packet to be assembled.<br /><br />Older radio systems that dont work on Packets used a form of Frequency shift keying (FSK) similar to how a telephone modem works. This used to transmit bit by bit and only had the delay of 1 data bit.<br /><br />If any of these are available in a miniaturised package then they would be ideal for all robots because there is almost zero delay in transmission<br /><br />Again though, most 2.4 Ghz RF systems implement packets. In most cases they are much more versatile.<br /><br />Anything that says 802.x will do this.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=484">PaulP</a> — Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:55 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-02-28T12:54:35+01:00</updated>
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Also, there is the wireless USB hub which looks good<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=356042">http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductP ... _Id=356042</a><!-- m --><br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yedata.co.jp%2Findex.html&amp;langpair=ja%7Cen&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;prev=%2Flanguage_tools">http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... uage_tools</a><!-- m --><br /><br />and another one coming<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=4105">http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=4105</a><!-- m --><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=532">Orac</a> — Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:54 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-02-28T12:02:59+01:00</updated>
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Hi,<br /><br />My cable is a USB one so would a USB printer -&gt; bluetooth adapter dongle work, like the ones below. <br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.gizoo.co.uk/Products/PCGaming/Wireless/BluetoothPrinterAdapter2.htm">http://www.gizoo.co.uk/Products/PCGamin ... apter2.htm</a><!-- m --><br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Bluetooth-USB-Printer-Adapter/dp/B0001Q17NW">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-Bluetoot ... B0001Q17NW</a><!-- m --><br /><br />You can get smaller ones than this <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /> but it has some specs to look at and they support vitual comm ports.<br /><br />So I would imagine I could basically cut the current USB cable down to nothing, plug it into the new dongle and fit both inside the back of the robot. Then fit a standard USB bluetooth dongle to the back of my PC.<br /><br />Is there anything about these USB printer dongles that wouldn't support 2 way comms?<br /><br />Thanks<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=532">Orac</a> — Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:02 pm</p><hr />
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