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Tempusmaster - Thanks for your help - I look forward to the posting !<br /><br />When I am next in Tokyo I'll buy you a beer.<br /><br />Cheers<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=531">Big</a> — Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:43 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2008-03-24T22:31:06+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>Big wrote:</cite><br />Tempusmaster<br /><br />The problem I have is related to the ICS settings,<br /><br />When I change the right and left limit up to the max of 60 I get the full shoulder articulation that is required - Thanks<br /><br />Where can I find a table that gives me all the correct ICS setting for each servo for a 1HV ?<br /></div></blockquote><br />Good question. I'll have to research it a bit. I don't think the table you're looking for exists, but it probably should. If I don't get back to you within the next week or so, please ping me with a private message to remind me.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=56">tempusmaster</a> — Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:31 pm</p><hr />
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Tempusmaster<br /><br />The problem I have is related to the ICS settings,<br /><br />When I change the right and left limit up to the max of 60 I get the full shoulder articulation that is required - Thanks<br /><br />Where can I find a table that gives me all the correct ICS setting for each servo for a 1HV ?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=531">Big</a> — Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:21 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-06T00:48:36+01:00</updated>
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Good to hear that you got it working.<br /><br />Hope to see some impressive vids in the future and some good mods.<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:48 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-05T20:56:16+01:00</updated>
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I finally figured out what the problem is. I unplugged the shoulder servos and tried the robot without the shoulder servos and it worked fine. So then I tried it with one shoulder at a time and whenever I hooked up the left shoulder everything went haywire. So I took a closer look at the servo and I could hear something rattling inside it. So I took it apart and there was a raw piece of solder floating around in the servo. So I took it out and all the servos are fine now. <br /> And as for the software issues I tried it on my desktop and everything worked fine. It seems the adapter or something has some issues with Toshiba laptops. So I updated all the usb drivers and reinstalled the software on my laptop. Its still very buggy on my laptop but I am able to run it on my laptop now. So everything is working good now <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=714">Droid Works</a> — Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:56 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-05T12:30:13+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>Droid Works wrote:</cite><br />Ok, I have solved all the problems except why I can only get 1/2 the rotation from the shoulder servos. There must be some software setting or something in the memory of the robot not letting the servo do its full rotation.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />You might recognize this paragraph from page 54:<br /><br />&quot;Limit: Largest operational angle on left and right of servo can be set. With KRS-788HV 1.5 degrees, with KRS-4024SHV it becomes correspondence of 2.16 degrees concerning parameter 1.&quot;<br /><br />If you played with the ICS settings chances are you have the shoulder servos set to the 788 parameters instead of the 4024 the way they should be.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=56">tempusmaster</a> — Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:30 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-05T11:14:33+01:00</updated>
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It shouldn't be the software, is I've used H2H a lot and Have never come across anywhere were you can limit the servo range.<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:14 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-05T01:28:20+01:00</updated>
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Ok, I have solved all the problems except why I can only get 1/2 the rotation from the shoulder servos. There must be some software setting or something in the memory of the robot not letting the servo do its full rotation. I cant create my start position until I solve this problem and with no start position I cant run any motions. Anyone have any Idea how to get the software to see that the servo can move farther?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=714">Droid Works</a> — Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:28 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T17:42:17+01:00</updated>
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I can send the file to the bot and save it to his memory but when I hit play it will go to the home position and thats it. I am using the 2hv English software and mechanical manual and the japan 1hv manual and a rough English translation of it <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://droidworks.org/KHR1HV.aspx">http://droidworks.org/KHR1HV.aspx</a><!-- m --><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=714">Droid Works</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:42 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T17:35:08+01:00</updated>
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You bot has catch and play.<br /><br />If the bot wont play the motion file then I would say these something wrong with the PC -&gt; KHR or something to do with the H2H.  When select and play a file then I should do that Right away.  Are you using the english manual.<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:35 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T17:31:06+01:00</updated>
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I can send to the bot but I wont perform them but they will show up i his momory. Also I think only the robonova has catch and play.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=714">Droid Works</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:31 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T17:28:26+01:00</updated>
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The connection is good. Also I have tryied HTH 1.1 and 1.1a and even HTHJ all had the same result.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=714">Droid Works</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:28 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T17:20:47+01:00</updated>
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Is the connection between the KHR and the laptop good. e.g. can you send the bot a motion file and will he perform it.  Can you use catch and play!<br /><br />What version of H2H are you using.<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:20 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T17:20:25+01:00</updated>
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Is the connection between the KHR and the laptop good. e.g. can you send the bot a motion file and will he perform it.  Can you use catch and play!<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:20 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-11-04T14:54:38+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>tempusmaster wrote:</cite><br /><blockquote><div><cite>Droid Works wrote:</cite>I zeroed them all and they are in the right position.<br /></div></blockquote><br />So, with all of them zeroed, and no trim adjustment, your robot looks like this:<br /><img src="http://robosavvy.com/Builders/tempusmaster/Image00554.jpg" alt="Image" /><br />Right?<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />The problem I am havening is the 2 shoulder servos  only move 1/2 of the distance they are supposed to.<br /></div></blockquote><br />Do you mean that the shoulder servos only rotate half the range they should, or do you mean that as you move the sliders the scale factor (how far they move as the count changes) is off?<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />and when I move the slider sometimes the other servos jump.<br /></div></blockquote><br />That can happen at times, though you might have the servo you're trying to adjust up against its stop.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Is there some setting I am missing?<br /></div></blockquote><br />Probably, but we'll have to understand more about what you have done and are doing to figure out what the problem is.<br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Also the trim doee not work at all. I am stumped.<br /></div></blockquote><br />When you say it 'does not work at all', what do you mean exactly? If you can explain more specifically what's happening, or not happening, then we might be able to help.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yes it looks just like the pic. The servos will move the full range if you move them by hand. But when you use the slider it acts like there is a stop when there is none. Unpowered the arms will move from a hands raised all the way to arms pointing behind him. Powered useing the slider his arms only move from arms straight up to almost to his sides like there is a stop there but there is no stop.  The software only lets me use 1/2 of his range or motion in the shoulders. <br /><br />The trim does not do anything at all. I made some adjustments in the trim and nothing happened. But I was told xp sometimes has problems with the software and to try rebooting. so I will try that. <br /><br />I am useing a laptop, I have all the servos set to ICS. Is there any laptop isues anyone know of and should I have the servos set for ICS or normal?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=714">Droid Works</a> — Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:54 pm</p><hr />
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