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LOL<br />the kind of robot you're is not apreciated around here...<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1934">FabinovX</a> — Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:06 pm</p><hr />
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marry,<br /><br />Prove to me that you are human.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=438">Fritzoid</a> — Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:39 pm</p><hr />
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Yap i have scientifically judge it that 243200 total bytes are there for motion data with each motion takes up 4864 bytes.  I could prove it by and experiment.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />-------------------------------------<br />Keep an eye on <a href="http://www.realtests.com/exam/250-265.htm" class="postlink">250-265</a> as well as <a href="http://www.realtests.com/exam/250-300.htm" class="postlink">250-300</a> to attain bright future.<br /> <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2091">marry31</a> — Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:40 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2010-01-18T04:17:35+01:00</updated>
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Thank you!!<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1865">taylor</a> — Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:17 am</p><hr />
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<blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />I think there is a sample motion file for RAS-2<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I think those samples just compare the accelerometer values and perform the get up from stomach motion if the robot is on the stomach and the get up from back motion if the robot is on the back. <br /><br />I was referring to using the accelerometer for static stability - direct mixing of the accelerometer values into the servo positions never worked well for me.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />My KHR-3HV sometimes create &quot;ga! la! ga! la!&quot; sound. Is it normal?<br /></div></blockquote> <br /><br />Never heard such a sound.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />By the way, can anyone help me on how to added motion in HTH4 (Hello_KHR3)? It seems there is M40 only and I cannot added new one.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />There are 243200 total bytes available for motion data, and each motion takes up 4864 bytes. Therefore, there is only memory for 50 total motions on the RCB-4. There are 31 example motions included in hth4 (plus 9 examples for wireless) leaving only about 10 slots blank. You just have to choose one of the blank slots, or just overwrite one of the example motions.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1751">chrisvo</a> — Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:13 pm</p><hr />
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Dear Chrisvo,<br /><br />  Good for you! I got all 3 senors and the remote control. Since I was new to Kondo robot, I still have a lot of problems to get it work properly.<br /><br />I think there is a sample motion file for RAS-2. Since the file name is in Japanese (HL0041AC###########(RAS-2).xlm), I have trouble to load it into HTH4.<br /><br />My KHR-3HV sometimes create &quot;ga! la! ga! la!&quot; sound. Is it normal? By the way, can anyone help me on how to added motion in HTH4 (Hello_KHR3)? It seems there is M40 only and I cannot added new one.<br /><br />Regards,<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1865">taylor</a> — Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:07 am</p><hr />
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<blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />I have just had a look at your modified 3HV – its great. <br />What are board are you using for camera control? I can see 2 control boards at the back, are you still using the RCB4?<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />The RCB-4, batteries, and some other components are inside the torso. The huge board on the back with the two sub-boards is for the camera system. It's one of <a href="http://www.surveyor.com/stereo/" class="postlink">these</a>.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1751">chrisvo</a> — Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:51 am</p><hr />
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Chrisvo,<br /><br />Many thanks for the info and help. Yes my Japanese is non existent, but I have managed to build the 3hv and it is up and walking!  <br /><br />Pity about the accelerometer, still always worth a try.<br /><br />I have just had a look at your modified 3HV – its great. <br />What are board are you using for camera control? I can see 2 control boards at the back, are you still using the RCB4?<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Peter<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1700">Ausrobo</a> — Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:37 am</p><hr />
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I've had success mixing in +9 and -9 at the ankle for front/back sway (as instructed in the <a href="http://kondo-robot.com/sys/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/KHR-3HVOptionManual_KRG-4.pdf" class="postlink">manual</a> for the gyros -- if you can't read Japanese don't worry I can't either just look at the table on page 7 of that manual for the table of recommended settings, or copy/paste the text into google translate)<br /><br />Here's some example video showing motions we've done with a modified 3HV (taller by almost 1.5x!) which incorporate gyro:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgR0CE3vdPo" class="postlink">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgR0CE3vdPo</a><br />For now we are just using the gyro globally (specified in the RCB-4 settings dialog), instead of per-motion. However, from experience, I do recommend setting up gyro settings per-motion - it lets you specify when, where, and how the gyro corrections are made for each phase of your motion -- sometimes important in motions where you may have intentional swaying (like walking, for example)<br /><br />I have never had success using the accelerometer in mixing on the Kondo. I wish I could, but the RAS-2 accelerometer is unfiltered and too noisy for this purpose. If someone could suggest a better accelerometer (or a way to filter / smooth them easily) for use with KHR series robots it would be awesome. I would throw it into the microcontroller and run simple kalman filtering in software but I am afraid that the overall delay would be too high.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1751">chrisvo</a> — Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:37 pm</p><hr />
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Hi,<br /><br />I have just ordered both for a KHR-3HV, does anybody have a link to sample motions for either or both?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1700">Ausrobo</a> — Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:07 am</p><hr />
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