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2013-01-10T10:40:27+01:00

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Statistics: Posted by estetikdrew555 — Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:40 am

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2012-08-15T14:32:06+01:00

Almost ready to place my order!! For 20 servos and the electronic parts kit!!

Statistics: Posted by Gort — Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:32 pm

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2012-07-06T15:22:32+01:00

Hi Gort

afaik Robotis hasn't disclosed any plans to sell the individual components of the electronics kit.

It took Robotis 1 year to release the kit of DARwIn Electronics so we don't really know how long it might take for them to release the CM-730

having said this, the CM-730 is an item that has some demand, You're not the first one to show interest in getting only the CM 730 board to build the rest of the solution around it.

After all, the CM-730 is the only key part of DARwIn that can't be otherwise replaciated (ie you can always use other Embedded PCs, other Dynamixels or Robot kits) but the CM-730 integrated board with Power management, IMU, LED controls, etc isn't that simple to replace.

Regards
Pedro.

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:22 pm

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2012-07-05T16:20:47+01:00

I was thinking along the same lines.

A Bioloid premium kit, CM-730 and a Raspberry PI was my idea. I was also thinking about a Xtion instead of the RGB camera too.

Yes, I could easily redesign and 3-D print out parts as needed.

Using the Bioloid-GP kit instead of the Bioloid premium kit is also a interesting idea too.

I think I would be happy if I could buy the CM-730 by itself.

Statistics: Posted by Gort — Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:20 pm

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2012-07-05T09:41:20+01:00

Hi Gort

Yep, we've also got th Electronics up on our store now: http://robosavvy.com/store/product_info ... ts_id/3131
(fyi we've also got the FSR enabled feet and the Gripperas well)

While your calculations are absolutelly right, you still need to add frames.
Considering the weight of the whole thing, are you considering 3D Printing them?

Another alternative - because the CM-730 (included in the Elcrtonics kit) is ocmpatible with the 3pin (TTL - AX/MT-xxT) and 4 pin (RS485 - RX/EX/MX-xxR series) buses - is adapting the electronics to whatever robot you want.

In theory you could add this to a Bioloid PREMIUM (reconfiguring the leg assembly I believe) or put it on a GOP which definitely looks like a very early version (alpha) of DARwIn in terms of mechanical design.

This would put your own DARwIn-OP well under the $5k (probably around $2.5k if you take a PREMIUM or a Comprehensive kit)

This is very nice!

We just wish the Electronics were made available without the FitPC2i as it would probably bring the price down considerably and there are much cheaper alternatives available (and still capable of running the DARwInOP framework).

Regards
Pedro.

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:41 am

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2012-07-05T00:47:21+01:00

It looks like you can make your own OP clone for less than 5,000 USD now!

http://mike-ibioloid.blogspot.com/2012/ ... -sale.html

Statistics: Posted by Gort — Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:47 am

Looking forward

2011-07-18T08:51:17+01:00

Hi Pedro

I am looking forward to your review. Your previous review on Kondos KRH2 & 3 were excellent. I really look forward to seeing your review from a user / consumer prespective.

Best,

PedroR wrote:
Hi UncleBob

We'll receive the first units of DARwIn-Op on July 25th.

We'll get one for ourselves and will certainly publish our review. (which should only happen in early August due to the timescale of internal projects that are going on at the moment).

We'll also be getting some additional units for customers who've already reserved it although I'm sure if they're regularly active on our forum.

With regards to the Editions - Academic or Deluxe - the restrictions of the "academic" edition policy iare not as strict as they are with Nao for example.
Customers who have enough knowledge to perform self maintenance may have access to the less expensive Academic Edition.
It is assumed that "customers who can do self maintenance" don't need the Extended 2 year Warranty and are able to service the Robot themselves; a 1 year standard warranty is still included against manufacturing defects.

I believe (my personal opinion here) that due to the added complexity of DARwIn compared to other Robotis products (ie Bioloid) Robotis chooses to promote the Deluxe Edition to ensure the successful introduction of the Robot in the market because it includes unlimited support from the distributor for 2 years.

Having said this, customers who have enough expertise to perform self maintenance on the Robot can choose to purchase the edition that suits them better. In this case please contact us to check and purchase the edition that you would need/prefer.

We will post our review about DARwIn as soon as we receive on ourselves.
Limor has already tested and reviewed a DARwIn during Innorobo although, if I recall correctly, we were not supposed to publish much about it at the time.

Regards
Pedro

Statistics: Posted by UncleBob — Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:51 am

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2011-07-15T15:25:09+01:00

Hi i-Bot

With regards to the software releases on sourceforge I don't really know which version is available and I don't really have information about their schedule.

From the Robotis end, they only provide us with information and support for the official DARwIn code (not the Upenn).

We don't really have any contact on Upenn to find out this information.

Maybe someone else here can answer that.

Regards
Pedro

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:25 pm

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2011-07-15T15:07:05+01:00

Robotis have done great work with their DARwin framework, but I guess the UPenn at Robocup were using their own code, which includes stuff like ZMP and mapping.

I am not sure if the UPenn software already released on sourceforge is their 2009 or 2010 version. Do you know if they will release their 2011 software ?

I would not want this to compromise the work that Robotis has done to make a base reliable distribution for DARwin OP, but it is good to have access to a range of software options from standard to cup winning

Statistics: Posted by i-Bot — Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:07 pm

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2011-07-15T14:45:26+01:00

Hi UncleBob

We'll receive the first units of DARwIn-Op on July 25th.

We'll get one for ourselves and will certainly publish our review. (which should only happen in early August due to the timescale of internal projects that are going on at the moment).

We'll also be getting some additional units for customers who've already reserved it although I'm sure if they're regularly active on our forum.

With regards to the Editions - Academic or Deluxe - the restrictions of the "academic" edition policy iare not as strict as they are with Nao for example.
Customers who have enough knowledge to perform self maintenance may have access to the less expensive Academic Edition.
It is assumed that "customers who can do self maintenance" don't need the Extended 2 year Warranty and are able to service the Robot themselves; a 1 year standard warranty is still included against manufacturing defects.

I believe (my personal opinion here) that due to the added complexity of DARwIn compared to other Robotis products (ie Bioloid) Robotis chooses to promote the Deluxe Edition to ensure the successful introduction of the Robot in the market because it includes unlimited support from the distributor for 2 years.

Having said this, customers who have enough expertise to perform self maintenance on the Robot can choose to purchase the edition that suits them better. In this case please contact us to check and purchase the edition that you would need/prefer.

We will post our review about DARwIn as soon as we receive on ourselves.
Limor has already tested and reviewed a DARwIn during Innorobo although, if I recall correctly, we were not supposed to publish much about it at the time.

Regards
Pedro

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Fri Jul 15, 2011 2:45 pm

Bought ?

2011-07-15T10:05:49+01:00

I just wondering if any one bought one (non institution) and played around ? Any initial thoughts ?

Statistics: Posted by UncleBob — Fri Jul 15, 2011 10:05 am

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2011-05-16T13:40:15+01:00

Thx. Pedro. That does seem more consistent and more attractive price for a partial kit. We expected the MX28 to be between $200 and $300 each, add the CM730 and its sub boards and you are getting close.
I expect no brackets, but hope they include the servo horns, cables, etc

It would also be sensible if the rather complex and specific metalwork around the CM730 and FitPC were included. This would reduce the problems and risk of damage to CM730 and FitPC

Statistics: Posted by i-Bot — Mon May 16, 2011 1:40 pm

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2011-05-16T11:52:30+01:00

(hint.. 5 off is 5 * more valuable research and a robocup team too)

Sorry that was a bit obscure.
Purchasing larger ticket items in an academic institutions, public sector generally and many large corporates is a challenge. If an item is below a threshold, then you are expected to pay from existing department budgets. However if you get the price higher there are often special funds quite generously available if you have a good justification. So it is often better to ask for more units (even whole units to break as spares) to acquire the special funding and protect the existing budgets.

Statistics: Posted by i-Bot — Mon May 16, 2011 11:52 am

DARwIn-OP kit for only 6000 USD!

2011-05-16T09:40:03+01:00

Hi Gort

We got some more information about this from Robotis. It is ocnfirmed that a kit around that price tag will indeed be released.

The 6k kit from what I understood is still a few months away. Unlike Bioloid where it's a "fluffy" kit where everything is documented and all is nicely packaged and ready to assemble, this 6k kit will be essentially a sum of parts and electronics.

From my understanding this means it clearly will be aimed at power users.

Quoting the information I got:
"[about a 6k kit] It was also commented by [...] who is willing to release fabrication information of all parts online.

ROBOTIS will only provide Actuators an Electronics which sums up to 6,000 USD
Timeline is not decided"

The email is not very specific but it hints at a few key points:
- "ROBOTIS will only provide Actuators an Electronics which sums up to 6,000 USD"
This probably means actuators + Robotis fabricated electronics (ie CM-730). Not sure if by this they mean they'll be including the FitPC2 as well as the webcam.

- "willing to release fabrication information of all parts online"
I also don't know what's the extent of this affirmation but it may hint that some of the parts (don't know which) may not be included in the price but designs for fabricating them will be available.

- I'm also not sure how it'll work in terms of warranty and support. It'll probably be limited and it'll likely be also a differentiating feature between the 3 editions now known.

In any case it looks like it will be an expert's or hacker's kit which is very cool and very exciting.

I wouldn't be surprised if Robotis is still not 100% clear how to got about all the details in this kit.
They take their time to think things over, listen a lot from distributors and take a long time for testing before releasing.

As a side note Robotis is in the process of releasing the new RX-28M separately to customers for other projects, and also stated they'll be focusing first on the other editions and leave the kit for last.

Pedro.

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Mon May 16, 2011 9:40 am