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Dongbu Robot

2013-04-08T13:50:52+01:00

I thought that Herkulex.com would have been a dongbu site, so I sent feedback about broken links and incomplete specs to them some time ago. A few weeks later I got a reply that it was run by a distributor instead, but they had dropped Herkulex due to difficulties working with Dongbu.

Would be interesting to hear Savvy's experience too, since they are listed but out of stock here.

Statistics: Posted by hukka — Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:50 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-10T14:50:56+01:00

Hi Unclebob,

I hear what you are saying on that front definitely in regards to help and experience...... hmmm

I did email dongbu on Wednesday regarding parts/help etc.
And they replied today. so i was impressed with their responsiveness!
The contact was Daniel Hwang.

However they also mentioned robosavvy as a uk distributor?
**** Pedro - does that mean you could potentially get a cost on getting one in?? ****

Decisions... decisions!

Statistics: Posted by Dave — Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:50 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-10T02:47:34+01:00

I am not going to name any brand. I always go for something established and used by a lot of people for getting help, software upgrades, etc.

Statistics: Posted by UncleBob — Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:47 am

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T17:14:47+01:00

Hi Nicolas,

Again thanks for the heads up and great help!

I'm going to have a sit down and think before i make a decision.

At this moment in time the hovis eco is the way forward.

But we will see how my mind develops of the next few days.

Bioloid is still in the back of my mind, i think i have gone away from robobuilder.

Statistics: Posted by Dave — Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:14 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T15:40:44+01:00

Dave wrote:
Hi There,

Thanks for those links.

Really undecided, i dont know what to do i really dont!

spend £540 on an hovis eco, plus import taxes, woo they might be nice.

Or go bioloid/robobuilder.

Just seems easier to go for one of the later. but then Hovis has some extra appeal with and without shell..... Unless of course you can build a decent shell for bioloid!

Hi
here a more info about the assemble the robot kit

http://blog.livedoor.jp/realmotor/archi ... 06685.html

in translate in english
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... 06685.html

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... hDsSSOvn2A

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... 4HoQE69mxQ

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... PdfwpYiIsQ

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... iIWVjrgqow

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... uxBFjHaBDA

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/ ... 9XfsNu8KIg

My advice is to take time to compare certain characteristics as:

- PRICE
Robobuilder vs Hhovis Eco vs Bioliod

- Material used in the gear of servos:
- plastic,
- extra resistence plastic
- metal gears

-Motion Edition Software:
Bioloid, and Hovis have a 3D model that helps a lot in the preparation and editing of the
movements ,thath is misses in software robobuilder

-Torque of servos

- Progaming options in different languages, C + +,. net, .. ect ...

hope this tips help in your choice

Statistics: Posted by nicolas gomez — Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:40 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T14:43:10+01:00

Hi There,

Thanks for those links.

Really undecided, i dont know what to do i really dont!

spend £540 on an hovis eco, plus import taxes, woo they might be nice.

Or go bioloid/robobuilder.

Just seems easier to go for one of the later. but then Hovis has some extra appeal with and without shell..... Unless of course you can build a decent shell for bioloid!

Statistics: Posted by Dave — Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:43 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T14:11:14+01:00

Dave wrote:
HI Pedro,

Thanks for that!

I really do like the look of the hovis eco actually.
Dont think im quite advanced enough to get into the RapsberryPI.

Would like to get as far as i can with the standard kit with gyro etc, and go from there i think.

The only problems i have come across would be getting additional parts, like gyro spare batteries, as well as actually getting the kit itself.

Hi Dave

here some links with the separe parts

http://nodna.de/navi.php?k=182&seite=&h ... g=0&af=100

http://www.sgbotic.com/index.php?dispat ... ct_id=1194

http://www.helidos.com/shopby/dongbu_robot

from http://wistjedat.tweakblogs.net/blog/82 ... -huis.html

Statistics: Posted by nicolas gomez — Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:11 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T13:02:10+01:00

Hi Dave

Regarding HOVIS Eco, I don't really know where you can source it. We're not currently carrying it on our catalogue.

Regarding Robobuilder, we do have it in stock and we're able to get practically any part you ant or need (even if its not listed on our store). Request for special parts take a few weeks to fulfil (as we need to group them with the next order from Robobuilder) but we are able to supply any extra or accessory parts to the customers provided Robobuilder is selling them of course.

Regards
Pedro.

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:02 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T12:59:37+01:00

HI Pedro,

Thanks for that!

Robobuilder is awesome, i looked some time ago at getting one but went bioloid instead in the end.

Now time has moved on i am in the market for a humanoid once more!

I really do like the look of the hovis eco actually.
Dont think im quite advanced enough to get into the RapsberryPI.

Would like to get as far as i can with the standard kit with gyro etc, and go from there i think.

The only problems i have come across would be getting additional parts, like gyro spare batteries, as well as actually getting the kit itself.

Statistics: Posted by Dave — Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:59 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T12:58:31+01:00

HI Pedro,

Thanks for that!

I really do like the look of the hovis eco actually.
Dont think im quite advanced enough to get into the RapsberryPI.

Would like to get as far as i can with the standard kit with gyro etc, and go from there i think.

The only problems i have come across would be getting additional parts, like gyro spare batteries, as well as actually getting the kit itself.

Statistics: Posted by Dave — Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:58 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T12:44:59+01:00

Hi Dave

We've only evaluated HOVIS Lite and I must say it's not all that interesting. Looks like a Bioloid Comprehensive with one extra servo in the torso (to bow).
As I was told this was also the design of the original comprehensive (with 19 servos) but the 19th DoF was later removed.

The issue with Hovis Lite is not the technology but mostly the looks because the servos seem very good (they're the same on Lite and Eco afaik).

Eco looks nicer, and from looking at the catalog looks more convincing.

Now, as you know, we don't sell HOVIS on RoboSavvy so I don't have much more advice to offer.

What I can say is that whether you go with HOVIS or Robobuilder, they both have great potential for expansion of the MCU which I believe is where Hobby Humanoids should improve.

ATMEL based MCUs have been around since the time of the Robonova and apart from the expensive DARwIn and NAO there hasn't been much improvement in terms of onboard processing power or programming languages/capabilities.

Robobuilder has a full featured serial protocol so you can add an extra MCU outside the robot and you can then make clever things programming on the PC or similar.

Additionally both Robobuilder and HOVIS have full Duplex TTL serial servos meaning that, if you want, you can strip out the controller and add an Arduino (or other) in place to control the servos/robot.
(we like the ArduIMU for this task btw: it has an onboard voltage regulator to accept a wide range of voltage input and takes power directly from the servos/battery, includes a 6 axis IMU and is an Arduino).

You can be a bit more ambitious and add a RapsberryPI but this requires a bit more hacking. It's an interesting project though and some more advanced users ahve made good progress in this area.

Regards
Pedro.

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:44 pm

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-09T01:01:01+01:00

Cool it was fighting jacky chan's Drunken Fist.

Don't like the remote. Can't fit the zigbee module to the Bioloid boomerang ?

Statistics: Posted by UncleBob — Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:01 am

Dongbu Robot

2013-01-08T23:00:01+01:00

Hi there,

Just thought i would ask a quick question here!!
Is the eco hovis actually any good?
i mean, i am looking into getting another humanoid again - had a khr2hv and biloid. not sure whether to go bioloid/robobuilder or hovis. Hovis looks great with the shell, and without. but not sure in regards to parts/batteries etc.Or should i hang back for any newer versions!

Ta In advance.

Statistics: Posted by Dave — Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:00 pm

Re: Hovis Eco photos

2012-10-26T17:35:02+01:00

I'd also like to thank you for posting these photos and videos. I love the drawer box that the kit comes in!

Pedro, I agree with you that the Hovis Lite isn't all that interesting... as ugly as a Bioloid, and not much cheaper than the Eco. But the Eco looks very nice, very similar to a Manoi but much less expensive.

I've been playing with the Herkulex servos and I really like them; I also really like the customer support I've gotten from Dongbu. My impression is that they're still new and ironing things out, but their engineering quality (both software & hardware) is really good. I think we'll see some great things from them in the years to come.

Statistics: Posted by Joe — Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:35 pm

Dongbu Robot

2012-10-26T17:39:28+01:00

Hi Nicolaz

Thank you for sharing this with us.

Regarding HOVIS Lite we actually have a sample/development model in our lab and I must admit we were not particularly impressed at the time. It looked like yet-another-Robot inspired in the ageing Bioloid Comprehensive.

As for Hovis Eco, it looks much more interesting - and I'm particularly impressed with the nice packaging.
There has been an internal decision to not include Hovis in our Christmas line up but we've been keeping an eye on their development.

I believe I already wrote somewhere we became involved with Dongbu very early in the pre release process. At the time a lot of things were missing including software so we decided to stock only the servos.
(HOVIS Eco for example, was not completely ready from what I remember at the time).

We know software (and hardware) has been maturing (and is at a good level now) and we also know Dongbu is still investing in developing new features and accessories for the robots.
We'll see what the future brings

Kind Regards
Pedro.

Statistics: Posted by PedroR — Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:21 pm