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The thing i like most about servos is that Digital servos do not need to be programmed to operate. They work great right out of the box and purchasing a programmer is not <a href="http://www.mspy.com" class="postlink">mobile spy</a> necessary.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=3177">kenp</a> — Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:36 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2011-10-17T23:38:23+01:00</updated>
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I-BOT, you were really so good.<br /><br />I now have a better understanding of the various issues.<br /><br />Before this post, I was tempted to buy a pair.<br /><br />But now I think I'll have to read up more before I go to spend a lot of money for nothing.<br /><br />My dream to make Robonova hip is still far away.<br /><br />I'm trying with 5980SG, but how strong are they heat up and hiss a lot when I go to lift leg sideways.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/articol300.jpg/" class="postlink"><img src="http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/2686/articol300.th.jpg" alt="Image" /></a><br /><br />thank you again.<br />landyandy<br /><br /><span style="font-size: 150%; line-height: 116%;">EDIT:</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold">I was wrong to insert the image.<br /> These are the 5498SG.<br /> However, it is the same thing with 5980SG.<br /> Much less, but unfortunately are not as strong as I would like.</span><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1617">Landy</a> — Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:38 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2011-10-17T20:44:28+01:00</updated>
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The positioning does not depend on the HMI extensions to the PWM protocol. The position is determined in a closed loop within the servo in proportion to the pulse width.<br /><br />I do not know much about the HS-M7990, especially since it has a magnetic encoder and so unknown angular range. The C3024 is set for a specific relationship of pulse width to angle. You may need to adjust the servo parameters in the HS-M  to give the same as an HSR. Alternatively you could adjust software values or mechanics if this is not a direct replacement.<br /><br />The reading of the position is used for capturing poses into Robobasic. Very valuable, but not essential.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=159">i-Bot</a> — Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:44 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2011-10-17T17:51:29+01:00</updated>
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Thanks for the answer.<br />Now everything is clear.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />The major difference is that the HMI protocol is used by the C3024 to read the servo position. This means that the functions in Robobasic which read the position will not work with the HS-M<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />....This means, (sorry if I'm not sure) that if I enter through RoboBasic command &quot;move 100 100 ecc.&quot; servo motors will not line up in the right position because it lacks the &quot;feedback&quot; that only through &quot;HMI&quot; can be achieved.<br /><br />Right?<br /><br />Too bad because this really is a beautiful servomotor.<br /><br />greetings.<br />landyandy<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1617">Landy</a> — Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:51 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2011-10-17T15:05:20+01:00</updated>
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As you already noted the HSR servo is HMI and the HS-M is not.<br /><br />The C3024 sends PWM signals in the range 550 to 2450 us as described here:<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/Builders/i-Bot/HSR8498HB%20Servo.pdf">http://robosavvy.com/Builders/i-Bot/HSR ... 0Servo.pdf</a><!-- m --><br /><br />The C3024 is capable of sending PWM to either the HSR or the HS-M servos, but you need to check the range of angle to pulse duration.<br /><br />Programming of the HSR is done with an HMI programmer, and I understand the HS-M is programmed using the special Hitec servo programmers. The C3024 does not program the servo in normal operation. You may need to do some programming to get the same range of rotation.<br /><br />The major difference is that the HMI protocol is used by the C3024 to read the servo position. This means that the functions in Robobasic which read the position will not work with the HS-M<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=159">i-Bot</a> — Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:05 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2011-10-17T13:25:36+01:00</updated>
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Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has knowledge about the servomotor in the picture.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.servocity.com/assets/images/HS-7990TH_1.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Control System: +Pulse Width Control 1500usec Neutral<br />Required Pulse: 4.8-7.4 Volt Peak to Peak Square Wave<br />Operating Voltage Range: 4.8-7.4 Volts<br />Operating Temperature Range: -20 to +60 Degree C (-68F to +140F)<br />Operating Speed (6.0V): 0.21 sec/60° at no load<br />Operating Speed (7.4V): 0.17 sec/60° at no load<br />Stall Torque (6.0V): 500oz/in. (36kg.cm)<br />Stall Torque (7.4V): 611oz/in. (44kg.cm)<br />Operating Angle: 45 Deg. one side pulse traveling 400usec<br />360 Modifiable: No<br />Direction: Clockwise/Pulse Traveling 1500 to 1900usec<br />IdleCurrent Drain (6.0V): N/A (Testing Now)<br />Current Drain (4.8V): N/A (Testing Now)<br />Current Drain (6.0V): N/A (Testing Now)<br />Dead Band Width: 1usec<br />Motor Type: Coreless Carbon Brush<br />Potentiometer Drive: Magnetic Encoder<br />Bearing Type: Dual Ball Bearing MR106<br />Gear Type: Titanium Gears<br />Connector Wire Length: 11.81&quot; (300mm)<br />Dimensions: 1.72&quot; x 0.88&quot;x 1.57&quot; (43.8 x 22.4 x 40mm)<br />Weight: 2.76oz (78.2g)<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />In particular I would like to know if I can use it to replace an HSR-5990TG, by using the classical MR-C3024 board used on the Robonova.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.servocity.com/assets/images/HSR-5990TG_Servo.jpg" alt="Image" /><br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Control System: +Pulse Width Control 1500usec Neutral<br />Required Pulse: 3.3-7.4 Volt Peak to Peak Square Wave<br />Operating Voltage Range: 4.8-7.4 Volts<br />Operating Temperature Range: -20 to +60 Degree C (-68F to +140F)<br />Operating Speed (6.0V): 0.15 sec/60° at no load<br />Operating Speed (7.4V): 0.12sec/60° at no load<br />Stall Torque (6.0V): 333.29 oz-in. (24kg.cm)<br />Stall Torque (7.4V): 416.61 oz-in. (30kg.cm)<br />Standing Torque (6.0V): 433.27 oz-in. (31.2kg.cm) 5 degree deflection<br />Standing Torque (7.4V): 541.59 oz-in. (39kg.cm) 5 degree deflection<br />Operating Angle: 60 Deg. one side pulse traveling 450usec<br />360 Modifiable: Yes<br />Direction: Clockwise/Pulse Traveling 1500 to 1950usec<br />Idle Current Drain (6.0V): 3mA at stop<br />Idle Current Drain (7.4V): 3mA at stop<br />Current Drain (6.0V): 300mA/idle and 4.2 amps at lock/stall<br />Current Drain (7.4V): 380mA/idle and 5.2 amps at lock/stall<br />Dead Band Width: 2usec<br />Motor Type: Coreless Metal Brush<br />Potentiometer Drive: 6 SliderIndirect Drive<br />Bearing Type: Dual Ball Bearing MR106<br />Gear Type: 4 Titanium Gears<br />Connector Wire Length: 11.81&quot; (300mm)<br />Dimensions: 1.57&quot; x 0.78&quot;x 1.45&quot; (40 x 20 x 37mm)<br />Weight: 2.18oz (62g)<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />On the site I have seen both of which are driven with the same width PWM.<br />My doubt is primarily the HMI is lacking and therefore I can not program it without his specific program.<br /><br />Can you give me more information please?<br /><br />P.S. sorry for my bad english. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif" alt=":oops:" title="Embarassed" /> <br /><br />best regards.<br />landyandy<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1617">Landy</a> — Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:25 pm</p><hr />
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