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Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-22T05:10:31+01:00

Thanks...

I'm not planning on using this sensor for localization, mainly because the two-axis gyro isn't temperature compensated, and you really need that to help offset drift.

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:10 am

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-21T23:56:07+01:00

Nice work, surprisingly compact.
What are your plans with the IMU, will you use it mainly for robot control, or do you plan to try "some inertial navigation" with it also?
Would be interesting to know if such a small IMU gives useable results with an adapted strapdown algorithm. I wouldn´t bet on it, but it would be kinda cool, especially when looking at stuff like self-localization.

Statistics: Posted by SK — Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:56 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-16T15:32:15+01:00

That came out great Jon, nice work!

I see that the guy you referred me to with the kalman filter code has released a new version. I glanced at it and it looks a bit cleaner than his old code, which wouldn't compile and had some oddnesses like comments saying that things don't work right and commented-out code that looked reasonable.

I don't know if you're planning on doing a kalman filter as a next step but good luck if you do! I have not yet been motivated to do so as what I have is working adequately for my needs. It helps for me that I'm not normally interested in tilts of more than say 30 degrees.

Now get ready for the Bioloid owners asking: "great, now what do I do with it once I build it?"

Statistics: Posted by DerekZahn — Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:32 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-16T13:30:21+01:00

So, here it is:

I'm pretty happy with how it all turned out...

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:30 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-15T23:10:43+01:00

So, it turns out there were two problems with the board, and one other software issue:

- the afore-mentioned MISO/MOSI swap
- easy enough to fix with an adapter cable for now - when I get the real board run done (probably next week), I have this fixed already in the PCB file

- the chip ground pad wasn't connected to the rest of the ground system
- I've also fixed this in the PCB file, and for now I've soldered a jumper so my board will work

The final problem was a software/fuse issue - turns out the fuse setting I was using was for the internal 8 MHz oscillator, and I programmed the code for 16 MHz. After I fixed the fuse, everything runs fine with the 16 MHz external resonator, and I can communicate with it as a bus device.

Once I get the standoffs machined for this first version, I will solder on the headers for the two sensor boards, and take some pictures/video/etc, as well as update the info on the wiki. The first versions of this IMU board should be available in a few weeks, if anyone wants one. I haven't worked out what the price will be, but it will be in the $40-50 USD range (not including the two sensor boards, obviously).

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:10 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-15T13:30:58+01:00

Well, I have a board, and last night I populated one of the IMU boards, and "baked" it in my friend's oven.

http://robosavvy.com/site/Builders/JonHylands/IMU-PCB-01.jpg

Turns out I made a mistake in the programming header (MISO and MISO are switched), so I had to make a simple programming adapter cable, but with that made I was able to program the onboard ATmega168.

However, things aren't working correctly, so I need to spend some time analyzing the board further, to see if I can figure it out. I suspect I put at least one of the LEDs on backwards.

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:30 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-08T14:46:35+01:00

Well, the initial PCB order is going out tomorrow (Friday) morning. I should have the first few boards by next Wednesday, and I plan on putting the first IMU board together by the end of next week.

Keep in mind the actual size of this board is 29mm x 19mm...

I'm also getting the foot pressure sensor boards printed at the same time. The software for that board is almost identical to the IMU - the only real difference is I will be using 4 A/D ports instead of 6 or 8.

I will keep everyone updated on my progress...

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:46 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-07T13:28:01+01:00

Juha,

They are from Dimension Engineering. I will not be using them on the final IMU board (the regulators are about the same size as the entire board).

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/DE-SW0XX.htm

I have those devices to provide 5.0 and 3.3 volts for various components on the electronics package (the ATmega128 runs off 5 volts, and the wifi module runs off 3.3 volts).

I will be using LDO regulators on the final IMU board (LM3480 series), since none of the sensors or the microcontroller draw much current, it won't end up wasting a lot of power.

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:28 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-07T11:57:07+01:00

Jon, the switching regulators you've found seem very nice. I might have to order few of those I do have one for 5V, but it's so much larger then the ones you use.

Statistics: Posted by Juha — Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:57 am

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-06T22:18:37+01:00

I use Rhino3D for all my CAD modeling stuff.

I can build a model like the 6-axis IMU board in less than an hour. The model of MicroRaptor, on the other hand, has probably 100 hours of work in it.

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:18 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-06T21:52:13+01:00

Looks fab Jon. How do you make the 3D images please?

Mark

Statistics: Posted by pepperm — Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:52 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-06T20:46:50+01:00

Great work!
Love the way you nonchalantly make those board images in 3D with such ease.

Statistics: Posted by limor — Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:46 pm

Bioloid IMU Bus Sensor - Working

2007-03-06T15:57:40+01:00

Hi everyone,

Well, I'm very happy to report that my 6-axis IMU bus sensor is now working, and (pending some more rigorous testing) complete, at least from a software perspective.

I've put up a preliminary version of the "user manual" here:

http://www.bioloid.info/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=6-Axis+Bus+IMU+Documentation

Comments are welcome.

It is running on an ATmega168 board, which you can see here:

http://www.bioloid.info/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=6-Axis+Bus+IMU

I will be adding a page that describes how the circuit is put together.

The source code has been put up in my brother's SVN repository:

http://websvn.hylands.org/listing.php?repname=Projects&path=%2Favr%2Fbioloid-imu%2F&rev=0&sc=0

I will be working on the final PCB design this week, and will be having a batch of custom boards printed soon.

- Jon

Statistics: Posted by JonHylands — Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:57 pm