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Thanks for your replys guys.<br /><br />Pev, I've just tried your 19DOF file but still no luck still set itself to 1023. I think maybe something do with Bioloid_Verxxx.hex? Do you still have this file from the 19DOF CD? maybe I can give it a go? Cheers.<br /><br />Mic.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:25 am</p><hr />
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The CM2+ will work with both the DX and AX series dynamixels, but bren is correct, the CM2 itself has a different BUS than the CM5 ergo it will not work with the AX's.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=221">hivemind</a> — Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:24 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-15T21:59:10+01:00</updated>
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A CM2 don't work with the AX's because it uses different wiring for the servos.<br /><br />bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:59 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-15T17:09:07+01:00</updated>
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Thanks for your info hivemind, any idea would CM2 ok to work with AX-12?<br /><br />Cheers<br />Mic.<br /><blockquote><div><cite>hivemind wrote:</cite><br />Hello, <br /><br />I am using a CM2 and have tested the Bioloid software with that (including the part downloaded to the robot and the motion editor itself) and have it working with 23 servos without a problem.  Here is a copy of the rbt file I am using (albiet it works with the defualt.x model):<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite>Hive wrote:</cite>3D file:default.x<br />Motor Number:23<br />0:1:Right_Ankle:512<br />1:2:Right_Shin:512<br />2:3:Right_Knee:512<br />3:4:Right_Quad:512<br />4:5:Right_Rotation:512<br />5:6:Right_Tilt:512<br />6:7:Left_Ankle:512<br />7:8:Left_Shin:512<br />8:9:Left_Knee:512<br />9:10:Left_Quad:512<br />10:11:Left_Rotation:512<br />11:12:Left_Tilt:512<br />12:13:Waist_Rotation:512<br />13:14:Waist_Bend:512<br />14:15:Right_Shoulder:512<br />15:16:Right_Bend:512<br />16:17:Right_Rotation:512<br />17:18:Right_Elbow:512<br />18:19:Right_Hand:512<br />19:20:Left_Shoulder:512<br />20:21:Left_Bend:512<br />21:22:Left_Rotation:512<br />22:23:Left_Elbow:512<br />23:24:Left_Hand:512<br />24:25:Head:512<br />Sensor Number:1<br />0:100:[100]Dynamixel<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I simply edited the file so that the servos corresponded to the correct ID numbers.  It would seem that I am simply not having the same issue you are? Although this could be due to the CM2 and DX series servos.  Strange.  <br /><br />-Goodluck with your issue though</div></blockquote><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:09 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-15T17:07:35+01:00</updated>
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Thanks Pev,<br /><br />I’ll give it a go looks like it could be a possible solution for the time being.<br /><br />Cheers<br />Mic<br /><blockquote><div><cite>Pev wrote:</cite><br />Mic,<br /><br />Just had a hunt on my system and found the original software supplied with my Bioloid way back when it was first available. That included a 19 DOF humanoid model and a 19 DOF default model for the motion editor.<br /><br />I have zipped them up and uploaded them here :<br /><br /><a href="http://robosavvy.com/site/Builders/Pev/19%20DOF%20Robot%20files.zip" class="postlink">http://robosavvy.com/site/Builders/Pev/19%20DOF%20Robot%20files.zip</a><br /><br />Haven't had a chance to test them but they may help support that extra DOF you're looking for. I think the default.rbt is the safest to load as the other Humanoid one has all the IDs in the wrong places for the 18 DOF humanoid.<br /><br />Was wondering if the .X 3d model has to have as many DOF as the .rbt file before the 2 will work together? <br /><br />Pev<br /></div></blockquote><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:07 pm</p><hr />
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Thanks Hivemind,<br /><br />That is what I have done but I think I will investigate this further over the weekend. Am sure there must be a solution<br /><br />Pev<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=88">Pev</a> — Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:25 am</p><hr />
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Hello, <br /><br />I am using a CM2 and have tested the Bioloid software with that (including the part downloaded to the robot and the motion editor itself) and have it working with 23 servos without a problem.  Here is a copy of the rbt file I am using (albiet it works with the defualt.x model):<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite>Hive wrote:</cite><br />3D file:default.x<br />Motor Number:23<br />0:1:Right_Ankle:512<br />1:2:Right_Shin:512<br />2:3:Right_Knee:512<br />3:4:Right_Quad:512<br />4:5:Right_Rotation:512<br />5:6:Right_Tilt:512<br />6:7:Left_Ankle:512<br />7:8:Left_Shin:512<br />8:9:Left_Knee:512<br />9:10:Left_Quad:512<br />10:11:Left_Rotation:512<br />11:12:Left_Tilt:512<br />12:13:Waist_Rotation:512<br />13:14:Waist_Bend:512<br />14:15:Right_Shoulder:512<br />15:16:Right_Bend:512<br />16:17:Right_Rotation:512<br />17:18:Right_Elbow:512<br />18:19:Right_Hand:512<br />19:20:Left_Shoulder:512<br />20:21:Left_Bend:512<br />21:22:Left_Rotation:512<br />22:23:Left_Elbow:512<br />23:24:Left_Hand:512<br />24:25:Head:512<br />Sensor Number:1<br />0:100:[100]Dynamixel<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I simply edited the file so that the servos corresponded to the correct ID numbers.  It would seem that I am simply not having the same issue you are? Although this could be due to the CM2 and DX series servos.  Strange.  <br /><br />-Goodluck with your issue though<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=221">hivemind</a> — Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:56 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-14T19:52:19+01:00</updated>
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Mic,<br /><br />Just had a hunt on my system and found the original software supplied with my Bioloid way back when it was first available. That included a 19 DOF humanoid model and a 19 DOF default model for the motion editor.<br /><br />I have zipped them up and uploaded them here :<br /><br /><a href="http://robosavvy.com/site/Builders/Pev/19%20DOF%20Robot%20files.zip" class="postlink">http://robosavvy.com/site/Builders/Pev/19%20DOF%20Robot%20files.zip</a><br /><br />Haven't had a chance to test them but they may help support that extra DOF you're looking for. I think the default.rbt is the safest to load as the other Humanoid one has all the IDs in the wrong places for the 18 DOF humanoid.<br /><br />Was wondering if the .X 3d model has to have as many DOF as the .rbt file before the 2 will work together? <br /><br />Pev<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=88">Pev</a> — Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:52 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-14T17:33:47+01:00</updated>
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In this case, Limor could you report this issue / Bug to Robotis? For sure some of us may want to add some more AX-12 to the robot in the future.<br /><br />Cheers<br />Mic.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:33 pm</p><hr />
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Mic,<br /><br />I have just  had a chance t test this by adding my gripper back onto my robot. I had used a progromatic interface so hadn't used the motion editor. Updated the RBT file and got everything setup. Then I had exactly the same issue as you, the gripper servo keeps resetting to 1023. Can't seem to fix it which is a total pain.<br /><br />Like you said looks like a bug in the software grrrrrr<br /><br />Pev<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=88">Pev</a> — Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:29 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-13T18:05:28+01:00</updated>
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I have been trying different things but still no lucks. Looks like there is a bug in the software.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:05 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-11T21:35:54+01:00</updated>
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Thanks a lot Pev. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:35 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-11T21:19:58+01:00</updated>
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Mic,<br /><br /> I'll need to test this again myself with the gripper I have. When I've tried it (probably tomorrow) I'll post an update<br /><br />Pev<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=88">Pev</a> — Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:19 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-03-11T19:59:31+01:00</updated>
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Thanks for you advice Pev, but after the change (see below) it seems to have the same problem.<br />From the off-set page(0) the Dynamixel number 19 showing was(512)which is fine, but when I go to the init page(1)once I click off &amp; on again it will display the Dynamixel nubber 19 as (512) but the actual position has move to 1023 by itself, so when I toggle it off/on again it will display the actual position at 1023? I’ve tried create a new pose and delete the pose (0) and saving the page but when I double click the pose(0) again it will go back to 1023?<br /><br />What do I need to do when adding a new Dynamixels? As far as I know please see the following.<br /><br />1/Edit the humanoid.rbt file as below or use the default.rbt has already set to 19 Dyamixel as default.<br /><br />2/Reset/recreate the new pose for “off set” and “init” page.<br /><br />That it have I miss anything? <br /><br />Cheers<br />Mic.<br /><br /><br />3D file:humanoid.x<br />Motor Number:19<br />0:1:[1]Dynamixel:512<br />1:2:[2]Dynamixel:512<br />2:3:[3]Dynamixel:512<br />3:4:[4]Dynamixel:512<br />4:5:[5]Dynamixel:512<br />5:6:[6]Dynamixel:512<br />6:7:[7]Dynamixel:512<br />7:8:[8]Dynamixel:512<br />8:9:[9]Dynamixel:512<br />9:10:[10]Dynamixel:512<br />10:11:[11]Dynamixel:512<br />11:12:[12]Dynamixel:512<br />12:13:[13]Dynamixel:512<br />13:14:[14]Dynamixel:512<br />14:15:[15]Dynamixel:512<br />15:16:[16]Dynamixel:512<br />16:17:[17]Dynamixel:512<br />17:18:[18]Dynamixel:512<br />18:19:[19]Dynamixel:512<br />Sensor Number:1<br />0:100:[100]Dynamixel<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=543">mic2</a> — Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:59 pm</p><hr />
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Mic <br /><br />Have you edit the humanoid.rbt file and adding the 19th servo to it. I had to do that when I added a 19th servo for a gripper because of a similair problem.<br /><br />Pev<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=88">Pev</a> — Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:36 am</p><hr />
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