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<author><name><![CDATA[MoSin]]></name></author>
<updated>2008-05-23T14:30:50+01:00</updated>
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well, my project is started for real now. It has changed a lot but at least I'm working with the robot. <br /><br />Right now, I'm working on an animation engine. Something like Jon has made. My next step is to implement forward kinematic, robotic matrices to represent the robot itself in space. I'll use that for better interpolation and also to do an opengl viewport. I just saw that cosa did something like this. I left the intelligence thing aside for now. I want to build the best tool before going on intelligent balance control, adaptativity and etc. Well, I just wanted to update my project status!<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=667">MoSin</a> — Fri May 23, 2008 2:30 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-07-15T19:17:48+01:00</updated>
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Hum, I'm not sure about your question. I'm at the beginning of an idea of a project. I don't have the robot, I don't have all the skills I need. It is still at the stage of an idea! Right now, I read on what has been done. I don't know a lot about biology and human motion.It's a long term idea of project I have. So right now, I will stay at the theoric side. When money is there, I'll buy a robot and anything needed. I must get lots of knowledge before I throw myself completely!<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=667">MoSin</a> — Sun Jul 15, 2007 7:17 pm</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[Robo1]]></name></author>
<updated>2007-07-15T17:58:04+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-15T17:58:04+01:00</published>
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I'm going my dissertation for a Masters in robotics at bristol robotics lab <a href="http://www.brl.ac.uk/" class="postlink">http://www.brl.ac.uk/</a><br /><br />To simplify your project have you thought of having a table of servo positions similar to the way people pose there robot and then use a learning program to optimize this table. <br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:58 pm</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[MoSin]]></name></author>
<updated>2007-07-15T17:11:27+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-15T17:11:27+01:00</published>
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yep, this is exactly what I need to do. Mimick a human motion is pretty hard so it is important that I define my fitness variable correctly. You,p what is your dissertation for? Where are you doing it?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=667">MoSin</a> — Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:11 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-07-15T10:38:39+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-15T10:38:39+01:00</published>
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Hi there.<br /><br />I'm doing the same sort of thing for my dissertation.  the main thing you have to consider is how you get the feed back so that the program know how well it is doing.  So for you I would say making a system to optimize a walking gait is a good start.  So the the first thing to think about is how do you measure (obtain) a fitness value.<br /><br />I'm going to use a ping))) and a digital compass.   So the bot is in a square box with the ends at North and south.  it will align it self so that it's facing north take a distance reading then take 5 steps then measure with the ping the distance again.  These two readings give you the distance traveled the compass will give you how straight it walked and the accelerometers will tell you if it feel over (stability).  <br /><br />you can then put all this into a equation that will give you a fitness value.  you then want the robot to automatically  turn around line it self up and repeat the experiment with a different walking gait.<br /><br />My project is on evolutionary algorithm to create the walking gait.<br /><br />I'm also going to use a gumstix, but having a PC create the walking gait and the bot transmitting the final value distance direction and stability back to the PC.<br /><br />this way I can log it and put it in to excel to plot pritty graphs.<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:38 am</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[MoSin]]></name></author>
<updated>2007-07-14T22:45:16+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-14T22:45:16+01:00</published>
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I never touched mathlab or simulink but I hope to do so soon. I have no experience in that kind of simulation but I saw that there are some informations available here. I looked at the gumstix. Damn, it was the first time I saw that! It looks very nice! Is it difficult to implement somehting in that. I guess there is a thread that explains everything. There are so much things I need to learn!<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=667">MoSin</a> — Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:45 pm</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[limor]]></name></author>
<updated>2007-07-13T18:00:53+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-13T18:00:53+01:00</published>
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rustyarmor has linked Matlab Simulink Windows-realtime-target with CM5 to allow real-time control of the Bioloid at up to 100hz. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1514">http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1514</a><!-- m --><br /><br />If you have experience with Simulink, this is a great way to start exploring intelligent control without having to write too much code.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2">limor</a> — Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:00 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-07-13T12:47:42+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-13T12:47:42+01:00</published>
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cool, I'll sure get a look at that! And yes I'm a pure quebec french boy! <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=667">MoSin</a> — Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:47 pm</p><hr />
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<author><name><![CDATA[Biodog]]></name></author>
<updated>2007-07-13T08:19:55+01:00</updated>
<published>2007-07-13T08:19:55+01:00</published>
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You can use your PC with a good size cable and leave aside your CM5 if you want, you'll just need components to connect your servos to your computer.<br />see this topic <br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=990">http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=990</a><!-- m --><br /><br />and go to Jon wiki, and things will be much more clear to you <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.bioloid.info/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=User+Projects">http://www.bioloid.info/tiki/tiki-index ... r+Projects</a><!-- m --><br /><br />(by the way, are you french? I am <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=559">Biodog</a> — Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:19 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2007-07-13T04:42:38+01:00</updated>
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Hi,<br /><br />I'm new here so first, I'm a student in electrical engineering and the end of the bacc arrives fastly! I'm thinking about doing a project about learning and robotics. I was looking at some robots over the net. I'm not very interested in building it on my own. I'm more a programmer than a designer, so it's the brain that interests me.  <br /><br />So, I saw the bioloid. I wanted to know, if someone knows a little bit about neural nets, does any body thinks train the robot to learn some motion is possible? The motion builder is cool, but I would be more happy to make him learn to walk that using poses. I know the controller isn't big, but I tought it would be possible to give him a packsack with other controllers with more rams and roms and make them communicate. <br /><br />I'm really interested to have opinions about that so thanks in advance!<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=667">MoSin</a> — Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:42 am</p><hr />
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