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If you are doing a lot of difficult debug I have found the simulator in the ACR gcc suite very good. I have been doing mixed C and assembler debug of timer interrupt routines and the simulator is clock accurate for the whole process.<br /><br />I also find the JTAG ICE Mk2 is good, but you can buy a lot of CM5 boards for the price. And you need to make special wiring to the board.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=159">i-Bot</a> — Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:33 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2008-06-20T19:26:32+01:00</updated>
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I'm sure It must be much more than 20 times a day. You don't count when you love ^^<br /><br />But tell me if you have a CM5 older than 1 year.<br /><br /><br />my work consist amongst other things to program industrial automated machines.<br />For the last plant I programmed, I used a software that increment each build Nr at every little modification done on site. If I just have a look on one of the programms of the plan, the version Number is 71 126 , for less of 4 mounths of tests (realy build and transfered in the machine)... and it's only mine, not the bigger version nr of all the softwares of the plant.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1012">le fatumbi</a> — Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:26 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2008-06-20T08:04:46+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>i-Bot wrote:</cite><br />Just get on with the programming. 10,000 cycles is quite al ot and certainly greater than my progamming imagination to date, I guess I reprogram the flash on my Atmega about only 20 times a day, but it still works fine. New controllers are cheap<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Absolutely.  Do the math.<br /><br />If you reprogramme your controller twenty times per day you can work every day for over a year before worrying.<br /><br />If you've developed that much code for your CM-5 I think it's fair to say that you wouldn't resent purchasing a new chip/PCB...<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=645">StuartL</a> — Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:04 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2008-06-19T19:40:25+01:00</updated>
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Just get on with the programming. 10,000 cycles is quite al ot and certainly greater than my progamming imagination to date, I guess I reprogram the flash on my Atmega about only 20 times a day, but it still works fine. New controllers are cheap<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=159">i-Bot</a> — Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:40 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2008-06-19T19:30:57+01:00</updated>
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Hello,<br /><br />I'm just reading Atmel documentation of Atmega128.<br /><br />Page 18: &quot;The Flash memory has an endurance of at least 10,000 write/erase cycles&quot;<br /><br />This seems to be very poor, especially during a debugg session. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling Eyes" /> <br /><br />Ok it's a normal characteristic for a Flash, but what do you think about that ?<br /><br />Is there a way to run program in ram ?<br /><br />Should I try to change frequently the start adress of the program to balance it's use ?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1012">le fatumbi</a> — Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:30 pm</p><hr />
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