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<updated>2010-04-07T07:24:35+01:00</updated>
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I compared this:<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://support.robotis.com/en/product/dynamixel/ax_series/ax-18f.htm">http://support.robotis.com/en/product/d ... ax-18f.htm</a><!-- m --><br />with this:<br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://support.robotis.com/en/product/dynamixel/ax_series/dxl_ax_actuator.htm">http://support.robotis.com/en/product/d ... tuator.htm</a><!-- m --><br /><br />And these are the only differences:<br /><br />AX-18FShow <br />Home &gt; Product Information &gt; Dynamixel &gt; AX Series &gt; AX-18F<br />ROBOTIS Tech Support  v1.00.02AX-18F                                             <br />                           Last updated 2010.03.03 (v1.01 Eng)<br />[AX-18F]<br />H/W SpecificationWeight : 54.5g<br />  Stall Torque : 18kgf.cm(at 12.0V, 2.2A)<br />      M0 (0X00)Model Number(L)Lowest byte of model numberR18(0X12)<br />Basic-offered frames with AX-18F are as follows.<br />F is applied as below.  F3 can be connected to 3 sides of AX-18F: Left, Right,<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2059">RobotNV</a> — Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:24 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2010-02-10T15:28:09+01:00</updated>
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That's makes it more interesting. A .103 second / 60 degree servo speed is quite fast. They had enough room to up the gear ratio a little, but they left it alone. I'd guess that the plastic gears are at their max or this is to make manufacturing easier by sticking with AX-12 guts.<br /><br />Maybe it's reasonably possible to find a replacement motor and mod an AX-12. Though I'd like to open up an AX-18F first and see if they beefed up anything else besides the motor.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=459">billyzelsnack</a> — Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:28 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2010-02-10T12:50:59+01:00</updated>
<published>2010-02-10T12:50:59+01:00</published>
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The latest Dynamixel brochure gives other differences between AX-12+ and AX-18F.<br /><br />AX-12+ has cored motor, AX18F has coreless motor.<br />AX-12+ no load speed is 59RPM, AX-18F is 97RPM<br /><br />Maybe Pedro can put up a scan of the brochure ? It shows the Rx24F specs too.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=159">i-Bot</a> — Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:50 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2010-02-10T02:00:12+01:00</updated>
<published>2010-02-10T02:00:12+01:00</published>
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Specs posted:<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://support.robotis.com/en/product/dynamixel/ax_series/ax-18f.htm">http://support.robotis.com/en/product/d ... ax-18f.htm</a><!-- m --><br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div><br />Weight : 54.5g<br />Dimenson : 32mm * 50.1mm * 40mm<br />Resolution : 0.29°<br />Gear Reduction Ratio :  254 : 1<br />Stall Torque : 18kgf.cm(at 12.0V, 2.2A)<br />Running Degree§       0° ~ 300°§       Endless Turn<br />Running Temperature : -5&#8451; ~ +85&#8451;<br />Voltage : 9  ~ 12V (Recommanded Voltage 11.1V)<br />Max Current : 900mA<br />Command Signal : Digital Packet<br />Protocol Type : Half duplex Asynchronous Serial Communication (8bit,1stop,No Parity)<br />Link (Physical) : TTL Level Multi Drop (daisy chain type Connector)<br />ID : 254 ID (0~253)<br />Communication Speed : 7343bps ~ 1 Mbps<br />Feedback : Position, Temperature, Load, Input Voltage, etc.<br />Material : Engineering Plastic<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I am wondering if they just put in a new motor with slightly more oompf.<br /><br />On the AX-12+ page they say &quot;Stall Torque : 15kgf.cm(at 12.0V, 1.4A).&quot; That is at the upward of what the AX-12+ can handle so I'd gather that the AX-18F is using a new naming convention using the max torque instead of the old min torque way. If true that'd be unfortunate because I was hoping for more than just 3 extra usuable kgf.cm of torque. <br /><br />Saying that.. I'm definitely interested. The AX-12's always seemed to be just a tiny bit under torque. That extra 3kgf.cm could make a world of difference. I wonder what the price will be.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=459">billyzelsnack</a> — Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:00 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T23:25:55+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T23:25:55+01:00</published>
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<blockquote><div><cite>JonHylands wrote:</cite><br />I would doubt very highly that's what it means - all Dynamixel servos are numbered by the amount of torque the servo has, not the voltage it uses.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Good to know. I did not know that about the naming convention. Wonder why they chose the &quot;torque&quot; at the minimum voltage for the AX-12.<br /><br />Any idea what the AX vs DX vs RX vs EX means?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=459">billyzelsnack</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:25 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T15:04:34+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T15:04:34+01:00</published>
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A beefed up AX servo would be great - particilarly if it had the same shape profile as the AX12 &amp; had metal gears to cope with the extra Torque.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=264">BillB</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:04 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-30T14:10:32+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-30T14:10:32+01:00</published>
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<blockquote><div><cite>billyzelsnack wrote:</cite><br />After updating RoboPlus I noticed something interesting in the Dynamixel Wizard. In the &quot;About Dynamixel Firmware&quot; dropdown it shows in the &quot;Support Dynamixel&quot; list an AX-18F! The picture makes it look like it is the same form-factor as the AX-12. Could this be an 18 volt version of the AX-12? If so.. That would really be fantastic news.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I would doubt very highly that's what it means - all Dynamixel servos are numbered by the amount of torque the servo has, not the voltage it uses.<br /><br />- Jon<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=373">JonHylands</a> — Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:10 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-12-29T05:38:27+01:00</updated>
<published>2009-12-29T05:38:27+01:00</published>
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After updating RoboPlus I noticed something interesting in the Dynamixel Wizard. In the &quot;About Dynamixel Firmware&quot; dropdown it shows in the &quot;Support Dynamixel&quot; list an AX-18F! The picture makes it look like it is the same form-factor as the AX-12. Could this be an 18 volt version of the AX-12? If so.. That would really be fantastic news.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=459">billyzelsnack</a> — Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:38 am</p><hr />
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