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I am agree to visit this site and read this post.Because this post has many important things. I am really happy for knowing this great post.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2041">mahin</a> — Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:37 pm</p><hr />
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Hi<br /><br />The most popular would be by far the Robotis AX-12 servos.<br />They are a bit noisy sometimes, probably the DC motor when the electronics are trying to hold the position.<br />They are also have one major drawback which is the 1 wire data bus. This forces you to use some specific electronics in order to be able to talk to the bus (or just use a Robotis controller).<br /><br />There are also Robobuilder Servos. These are not as popular as the AX-12 (not even close) but they have some very interesting features:<br /><br />- They have proper RX and TX line separation, making it much easier to interface it with third party microcontrollers. <br />- They can operate up to 1Mbps just like the Bioloid but they come with a factory default of 115 Kbps, again making it much easier to interface it with third party micro controllers.<br />The AX-12s can not operate properly (without error) bellow 400kbps in practice so you need a FAST micro controller.<br /><br />- The wCK 1111 have good torque, almost similar to AX-12 (especially if you use higher voltages).<br /><br />- They have a nice networked protocol similar to AX-12 with extended functionalities:<br />   . They have full PID control so they are very quiet (they don't have the noise issue that sometimes plagues worn ax-12s).<br />PID also lets you tune them for more or less of an elastic feel.<br />   . They have a nice Dynamic Brake feature which is a kind of third power state: Holding Position/Torque and Free Motion (just like AX-12) and the third Dynamix Brake mode where they are in between the two: in this mode there is no power consumption but they still offer tonus/strength (although with some force you can move them).<br />   . Load feedback seems to work better on Robobuilder servos than on AX-12 but still not great.<br /><br />The main issue with Robobuilder servos are gears breaking.<br />The wck 1111 already come with 2 metal gears and some of the new servos come with the 4th gear (the main one) in metal too, which essentially eliminates all of these problems with gears breaking.<br /><br />You can use something as basic as an Arduino to operate Robobuilder Servos, where for AX-12 you need a better Micro controller.<br /><br />Having said this, Robotis is still the leader in the servo area. They have the best quality and are seen as the best products if you're into the &quot;real deal&quot;.<br />Robobuilder is kind of a &quot;cheapper&quot; alternative but they are still quite good if you want to do it as hobby.<br /><br /><br />As for Kondo/Hitec, they are PWM servos, which means you will need some dedicated PWM pulse generator to operate them.<br />We have a board from Inex that can work as a bridge for this, offering a TTL interface to control PWM servos, but in my personal opinion, I would preffer networked servos (Robotis/Robobuilder) instead of PWM servos as the first tend to offer more advanced functionality and feedback of a much larger number of parameters.<br /><br />Pedro<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1061">PedroR</a> — Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:38 pm</p><hr />
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What are the most popular hobby servos for making a biped?  What are the worst ones to use, and the best ones, and maybe a middle of the road idea...<br /><br />Also, are there any servo's that run fairly quiet?<br /><br />thanks<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=792">wthierry</a> — Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:25 pm</p><hr />
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