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<blockquote><div><cite>Mr Flibble wrote:</cite><br />Robo1: &quot;designing full size humanoids&quot;<br /><br /><img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><br /><br />Wow very cool! <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> ... Sounds like you have a dream job there! ... do you have any photos or even a video?! <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />As for the question of making the body, the clay approach does seem the easiest, although its not exactly easy as each solution seems to be a lot of work and time. I've been looking into the home made CNC approach for a long time, but its a considerable amount of work and even then modeling the object on a computer isn't as easy as it at first appears. So the clay approach seems far less overall work.<br /><br />As for that smooth finish look on the clay, it depends on the clay type. If its the air drying type, after modeling it and leaving it to dry, the artist can sand it down to get very good finishes on it, with some work. Thats probably the easiest solution. Artists seem to have many techniques to learn to work clay in different ways. For example, with wet clay, its possible to just smooth it simply with water on your fingers to blur out ruff bits. You can also try smoothing each bit of it slowly through a very thin plastic sheet (like cling film) as you move the sheet around the object, but the dry clay and sanding it approach is easiest.<br /><br />Here's an amazing site, with some amazing looking robots. The Android 10 made with polymorph is very impressive and the full size Iron Man head prototype is made out of clay. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.xrobots.co.uk/">http://www.xrobots.co.uk/</a><!-- m --><br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />i seen this prototypes before, i really love it..<br /><br /><br /><br />________________<br /><a href="http://www.metrorp.com" class="postlink">Rapid prototyping</a><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1567">jakkspar</a> — Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:13 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-07-09T18:43:46+01:00</updated>
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I moved over to the states to work as a researcher at cmu.  It's a really cool robot.  I'm in the process of working with a team to build a new humanoid which is cool.<br /><br />bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:43 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-07-08T10:58:57+01:00</updated>
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Thanks for the video link. I've seen that Sarcos robot before, its very impressive. <br /><br />At first I thought the word Sarcos had a meaning (like some kind of acronym? ... the Carnegie Mellon Sarcos label on the robot was confusing me), but from the Wikipedia I see it a company name, now owned by Raytheon. (I've heard of them, I think they make that small lorry sized Terahertz raygun?!). I see they also make that Exoskeleton which is very interesting. (I want a working Ironman suit <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" />).<br /><br />Do you work in America or are you at Uni over here (I see your posting location is set as UK - Bristol, to add to the confusion <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";)" title="Wink" />).<br /><br />Anyway, its a very impressive robot, especially that amount of engineering (it looks like it took a lot of time and money to build it). I especially like its speed of movement and its ability to balance while standing.<br /><br />Anyway thanks again for the video link.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1346">Mr Flibble</a> — Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:58 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-07-07T18:20:02+01:00</updated>
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A link to one of the robots we have in the lab.  The one I work on is in the early stage and I can't publish any photos or videos of it.<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx_Lir-bK8A">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx_Lir-bK8A</a><!-- m --><br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:20 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-07-07T15:30:06+01:00</updated>
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Robo1: &quot;designing full size humanoids&quot;<br /><br /><img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><br /><br />Wow very cool! <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" alt="8)" title="Cool" /> ... Sounds like you have a dream job there! ... do you have any photos or even a video?! <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><br />As for the question of making the body, the clay approach does seem the easiest, although its not exactly easy as each solution seems to be a lot of work and time. I've been looking into the home made CNC approach for a long time, but its a considerable amount of work and even then modeling the object on a computer isn't as easy as it at first appears. So the clay approach seems far less overall work.<br /><br />As for that smooth finish look on the clay, it depends on the clay type. If its the air drying type, after modeling it and leaving it to dry, the artist can sand it down to get very good finishes on it, with some work. Thats probably the easiest solution. Artists seem to have many techniques to learn to work clay in different ways. For example, with wet clay, its possible to just smooth it simply with water on your fingers to blur out ruff bits. You can also try smoothing each bit of it slowly through a very thin plastic sheet (like cling film) as you move the sheet around the object, but the dry clay and sanding it approach is easiest.<br /><br />Here's an amazing site, with some amazing looking robots. The Android 10 made with polymorph is very impressive and the full size Iron Man head prototype is made out of clay. <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.xrobots.co.uk/">http://www.xrobots.co.uk/</a><!-- m --><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1346">Mr Flibble</a> — Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:30 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-05-21T16:01:46+01:00</updated>
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Hi I'm still around.  I have a fall time job designing fall size humanoids for a BIG multinational  <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /> <br /><br />So haven't had time to play with my own bot in a couple of months.  Thinking about building a new one but I can't decide what size to build it 30cm or 90cm as the one I work in at works 160cm I might just make a fall size one.<br /><br />Bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Thu May 21, 2009 4:01 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2009-05-21T09:43:04+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>Robo1 wrote:</cite><br />they probably make it out of clay by hand.  it would be the easied way.  you could also make it using a 3D prototyping machine(3D printer) and a CAD file.<br /><br />bren<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Really? By the way, I just want to applaud my gratitude to you for sharing this information to us.<br />I am always hoping that this will not be the last post that I could be read written by you. <br /><br /><br /><br />_________________<br /><a href="http://www.metrorp.com/" class="postlink">Rapid Prototyping</a><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1462">Denise17</a> — Thu May 21, 2009 9:43 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-11-15T00:49:58+01:00</updated>
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The black parts look like carbon fiber to me. In order to cast resin or whatever type of plastic parts, you first need a "plug" or original part, and then you can use it for a positive mold, or make a negative mold from a positive mold. Then, you can either use a liquid plastic, or you can lay up a composite on it, or even use a vacuum table to vacuum form a composite or sheet plastic. Often, clay is used to make the original, or pour foam thats been carved into shape.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=380">Rblackmore</a> — Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:49 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T21:37:06+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>Ray wrote:</cite><br />I think this type of pastic (resin) body is the trend of future robot in the robo-one <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><br /></div></blockquote><br />It's not easy to do at home, though.  You need a good mold, and especially if you want the resin parts to be not just coverings but also structural support, this can be quite difficult to achieve.<br /><br />I bet that the cost of rapid-prototyping services will come down, to the point where anybody willing to shell out $500 for servos will be able to shell out another $500 for custom plastic parts made according to their CAD spec.<br /><br />Best,<br />- Joe<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=299">Joe</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:37 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T21:34:59+01:00</updated>
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<blockquote><div><cite>buenodiablo wrote:</cite><br />What is Omnizeros website?<br /></div></blockquote><br />Sorry, should have included that.  <a href="http://www.1mm.jp/m/robo.html" class="postlink">http://www.1mm.jp/m/robo.html</a><br /><br />You can use something like Google Language Tools to translate this to your preferred language (if that's not Japanese!).<br /><br />If you go to the 2006-06-04 entry, you can see Maeda-san making parts with a "laminating type RP [rapid prototyping] device".<br /><br />Best,<br />- Joe<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=299">Joe</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:34 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T21:07:06+01:00</updated>
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What is Omnizeros website?<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=323">buenodiablo</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:07 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T15:39:15+01:00</updated>
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Some motion of this "Iron man 28"<br /><br /><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.vstone.co.jp/top/products/robot/TV_T28/t28_about.html">http://www.vstone.co.jp/top/products/ro ... about.html</a><!-- m --><br /> <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /> <br /><br />I think this type of pastic (resin) body is the trend of future robot in the robo-one <img src="http://forum.robosavvy.com/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=":wink:" title="Wink" /><p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=145">Ray</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:39 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T15:35:10+01:00</updated>
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If you go to Omnizero's web site, you can see that the builder uses a rapid prototyping machine to make his plastic parts.<br /><br />However, I believe the clay Iron Man model shown above really was sculpted by hand.  Yes, professional sculptors really are that good!<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=299">Joe</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:35 pm</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T10:46:15+01:00</updated>
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In the picture above it seems the first model is made of some kind of hard paste and looks too perfect to have been made by hand.<br /><br />On the other hand, if they use a 3D prototyping machine it would fall out of reach for most of us !<br /><br />If I am not wrong there is some kind of plastic that can be modelled by hand and dries with heat. I have seen this in art schools although I dont remember the name of this material.<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=8">inaki</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:46 am</p><hr />
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<updated>2006-10-05T10:34:52+01:00</updated>
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they probably make it out of clay by hand.  it would be the easied way.  you could also make it using a 3D prototyping machine(3D printer) and a CAD file.<br /><br />bren<p>Statistics: Posted by <a href="http://forum.robosavvy.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=216">Robo1</a> — Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:34 am</p><hr />
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