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Korean company maker of Robot kits and servos designed for of articulated robots. Re-incarnation of Megarobotics.
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Post by matrix2db » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:47 am

Post by matrix2db
Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:47 am

Well i purchased a robobuilder with metal brackets kit,hip kit,ect. Im assembled and running but i have some questions. At the moment i am using standard 16DOF some of the motion files like one arm handstand will not work do they need to be modified for the metal bracket kit? Also if i install the hip kit will the files need to be modified or will they still work. I see they sell a 20DOF model do all of the files have to be made? I have little to no programing experience. I have already downloaded the moves from the robobuilder site and some pedro posted. From what i can tell evereyone is using the microsoft robotics for advanced work. Any recomendations before i jump head first into that (pre requisites). Also are their any more repositories for motions out their. thanks in advance for any help.
Well i purchased a robobuilder with metal brackets kit,hip kit,ect. Im assembled and running but i have some questions. At the moment i am using standard 16DOF some of the motion files like one arm handstand will not work do they need to be modified for the metal bracket kit? Also if i install the hip kit will the files need to be modified or will they still work. I see they sell a 20DOF model do all of the files have to be made? I have little to no programing experience. I have already downloaded the moves from the robobuilder site and some pedro posted. From what i can tell evereyone is using the microsoft robotics for advanced work. Any recomendations before i jump head first into that (pre requisites). Also are their any more repositories for motions out their. thanks in advance for any help.
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Post by PedroR » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:14 pm

Post by PedroR
Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:14 pm

Hi matrix2db

You need to look on our forum for motion files as they are spread a bit.

To make the robot work with more than 16DOF, you need to select the platform CREATOR OTHER in MotionBuilder and set the RBC controller to CUSTOM PLATFORM mode (refer to the manuals of the Robot and MotionBuilder; please visit the main 5710 product page as we have added this and other documentation to it).

With regards to MSRDS please note the following: you will ALWAYS need to use MotionBuilder of you want to create and tune new Motions.
MSRDS does not have that capability.

When it comes to creating autonomous behaviors for the Robot, that's where MS Robotics Studio comes into play.
There are many other options though: ActionBuilder (for the absolute beginner), MS Robotics Studio, the libraries developed by our community and C programming.

If you're starting, Action Builder and MSRDS might be the best options for you.
Again, I recommend you visit the main 5710 product page as he have added a lot of documentation there (including tutorials for Action Builder and MSRDS).

Regards
Pedro.
Hi matrix2db

You need to look on our forum for motion files as they are spread a bit.

To make the robot work with more than 16DOF, you need to select the platform CREATOR OTHER in MotionBuilder and set the RBC controller to CUSTOM PLATFORM mode (refer to the manuals of the Robot and MotionBuilder; please visit the main 5710 product page as we have added this and other documentation to it).

With regards to MSRDS please note the following: you will ALWAYS need to use MotionBuilder of you want to create and tune new Motions.
MSRDS does not have that capability.

When it comes to creating autonomous behaviors for the Robot, that's where MS Robotics Studio comes into play.
There are many other options though: ActionBuilder (for the absolute beginner), MS Robotics Studio, the libraries developed by our community and C programming.

If you're starting, Action Builder and MSRDS might be the best options for you.
Again, I recommend you visit the main 5710 product page as he have added a lot of documentation there (including tutorials for Action Builder and MSRDS).

Regards
Pedro.
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problems uploading new firmware

Post by matrix2db » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:43 am

Post by matrix2db
Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:43 am

I am really new to this so somebody point me in the right direction. I am trying to update my RBC to ver 2.6 i have tryed to download from the robobuilder sight using windows explorer and firefox unziping file but when i try and upload it gives a error message saying error downloading file. Any subjestions i have tryed 2.6 and 2.6n
I am really new to this so somebody point me in the right direction. I am trying to update my RBC to ver 2.6 i have tryed to download from the robobuilder sight using windows explorer and firefox unziping file but when i try and upload it gives a error message saying error downloading file. Any subjestions i have tryed 2.6 and 2.6n
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Post by l3v3rz » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:16 pm

Post by l3v3rz
Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:16 pm

So what goes wrong ? Here are the steps - and its works for me.

1. Downloaded the zip and when unzipped you should get a hex file called RBC 2.26.hex.
2. Use the RBC upload tool (see comment below) and select the com port and file using the menus.
3. Press go and it (the upload tool) will ask you to reset the robot to start download.
4. Cycle the power the download will start automatically showing a progress bar.
5. When it reaches the end its done and the robot is running the new version.

You might need a more up to date version of the RBC download tool, its also available on the robobuilder.net site. A few links down from the firmware.

Does anyone know how to use this new free motion function - does it support capture and play in the firmware now ???
So what goes wrong ? Here are the steps - and its works for me.

1. Downloaded the zip and when unzipped you should get a hex file called RBC 2.26.hex.
2. Use the RBC upload tool (see comment below) and select the com port and file using the menus.
3. Press go and it (the upload tool) will ask you to reset the robot to start download.
4. Cycle the power the download will start automatically showing a progress bar.
5. When it reaches the end its done and the robot is running the new version.

You might need a more up to date version of the RBC download tool, its also available on the robobuilder.net site. A few links down from the firmware.

Does anyone know how to use this new free motion function - does it support capture and play in the firmware now ???
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Post by PedroR » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:35 pm

Post by PedroR
Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:35 pm

Hi

I have sent an email to Robobuilder to find out more about this Free Motion functionality.

I see on the RB website that there is now v2.26n which adds or removes this functionality (not sure now which it is LOL) but nevertheless it is the first time they have released a variant ("n") for a firmware version.

Pedro.
Hi

I have sent an email to Robobuilder to find out more about this Free Motion functionality.

I see on the RB website that there is now v2.26n which adds or removes this functionality (not sure now which it is LOL) but nevertheless it is the first time they have released a variant ("n") for a firmware version.

Pedro.
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upgrading rbc

Post by matrix2db » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:54 am

Post by matrix2db
Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:54 am

I am still unable to upgrade the firmware of my rbc after i hit reset on the rbc i get error downloading the firmware i downloaded a new version of the rbc upgrader it is still not working. Do i need to put the rbc in pc controll mode before i attempt to update or is standard hunp mode ok?
I am still unable to upgrade the firmware of my rbc after i hit reset on the rbc i get error downloading the firmware i downloaded a new version of the rbc upgrader it is still not working. Do i need to put the rbc in pc controll mode before i attempt to update or is standard hunp mode ok?
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Post by l3v3rz » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:07 pm

Post by l3v3rz
Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:07 pm

The download start as soon as the machine restarts - before it even gets into PC control mode or standard mode.

Sounds like you have serial connection problem - couple of possibilities are your not using the correct serial port, or something else is also connected to the serial port - stopping the upgrade tool connecting - do any bytes get transfered - its gives a count as it goes along ?
The download start as soon as the machine restarts - before it even gets into PC control mode or standard mode.

Sounds like you have serial connection problem - couple of possibilities are your not using the correct serial port, or something else is also connected to the serial port - stopping the upgrade tool connecting - do any bytes get transfered - its gives a count as it goes along ?
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Got it

Post by matrix2db » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:49 am

Post by matrix2db
Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:49 am

I transfered evereything to my laptop and it worked like a charm thanks for the help
I transfered evereything to my laptop and it worked like a charm thanks for the help
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