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Bioloid Vision Module

Created by Prof. Hamid Moballegh of The Robocup Humanoid Team of Freie Universität Berlin - fumanoids.de
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Post by hamid_m » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:34 am

Post by hamid_m
Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:34 am

Hello altwolf,

RoboPlus is only supported on HaViMo2. Unfortunately HaViMo2 is not released yet. There is a beta version available, which supports Roboplus, but not yet RoboBuilder. It may be possible that you contact Robosavvy and ask them if they can specially order a HaViMo2 beta for you. but I can't guarantee anything ;)
HaViMo2 is planed to be released in February 2010.


Best regards,
Hamid.
Hello altwolf,

RoboPlus is only supported on HaViMo2. Unfortunately HaViMo2 is not released yet. There is a beta version available, which supports Roboplus, but not yet RoboBuilder. It may be possible that you contact Robosavvy and ask them if they can specially order a HaViMo2 beta for you. but I can't guarantee anything ;)
HaViMo2 is planed to be released in February 2010.


Best regards,
Hamid.
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Post by PedroR » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:38 am

Post by PedroR
Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:38 am

Hi

Both v 1.5 and v 2 will be in production simultaneously.

V 1.5 is the HaViMo module we have all known and it supports only programming in C.

V 2 will be released in the next months I believe and besides the possibility to program in C, it will also be compatible with Roboplus.

In terms of hardware V 2 will be compatible not only with Bioloid but also with other Platforms that have UARTs at TTL level.
This is because the modules of V2 have a connector for 1 wire TTL (AX bus) _and_ a connector with separate RX and TX compatible with basically any device with a UART at TTL level.

As I mentioned both modules will be in production simultaneously and naturally V 2 will be slightly more expensive (about 25% more) given the added features.

Pedro.
Hi

Both v 1.5 and v 2 will be in production simultaneously.

V 1.5 is the HaViMo module we have all known and it supports only programming in C.

V 2 will be released in the next months I believe and besides the possibility to program in C, it will also be compatible with Roboplus.

In terms of hardware V 2 will be compatible not only with Bioloid but also with other Platforms that have UARTs at TTL level.
This is because the modules of V2 have a connector for 1 wire TTL (AX bus) _and_ a connector with separate RX and TX compatible with basically any device with a UART at TTL level.

As I mentioned both modules will be in production simultaneously and naturally V 2 will be slightly more expensive (about 25% more) given the added features.

Pedro.
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Havimo V2 - release date

Post by Raymond » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:23 am

Post by Raymond
Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:23 am

Hi Pedro/Hamid,

Have you a revised date for release of the Havimo V2, we're anxious to play with the new version.

Cheers

Mark
Hi Pedro/Hamid,

Have you a revised date for release of the Havimo V2, we're anxious to play with the new version.

Cheers

Mark
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Post by PedroR » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:49 pm

Post by PedroR
Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:49 pm

Hi Mark

The last news I have from Hamid is that all of the hardware is finished, the documentation is also finished I believe and I think he is just finalizing and wrapping everything.

We placed an order recently but the new V2 modules did not ship this time.

I trust they will come in our next order which should be happening in 4-8 weeks.

Best REgards
Pedro
Hi Mark

The last news I have from Hamid is that all of the hardware is finished, the documentation is also finished I believe and I think he is just finalizing and wrapping everything.

We placed an order recently but the new V2 modules did not ship this time.

I trust they will come in our next order which should be happening in 4-8 weeks.

Best REgards
Pedro
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Post by 27Loco » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:32 pm

Post by 27Loco
Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:32 pm

Are there any specs and prices available of the upcoming havimo 2.

thanks for the info :)
Are there any specs and prices available of the upcoming havimo 2.

thanks for the info :)
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Post by pikaj00 » Thu May 06, 2010 10:50 pm

Post by pikaj00
Thu May 06, 2010 10:50 pm

hi there have my module on its way woo hoo.. i was just wondering what you used to construct the pan and tilt system. i was thinking of building it with 2 AX-12s but what is the best way to mount it?.. thanks for all your hard work..
hi there have my module on its way woo hoo.. i was just wondering what you used to construct the pan and tilt system. i was thinking of building it with 2 AX-12s but what is the best way to mount it?.. thanks for all your hard work..
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Post by pikaj00 » Fri May 14, 2010 11:27 pm

Post by pikaj00
Fri May 14, 2010 11:27 pm

hey guys. i have built my pan and tilt system and mounted it to the robot.
here are some pictures.
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if you guys seeing anything wrong please msg me so i can fix it!...

now my question is this..
1. as these are brand new out of the box ax-12 actuators what should i set the ID to be for them so the code knows wich one is pan and wich one is tilt!..
hey guys. i have built my pan and tilt system and mounted it to the robot.
here are some pictures.
Image

Image

Image

if you guys seeing anything wrong please msg me so i can fix it!...

now my question is this..
1. as these are brand new out of the box ax-12 actuators what should i set the ID to be for them so the code knows wich one is pan and wich one is tilt!..
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Post by 27Loco » Sat May 15, 2010 12:29 pm

Post by 27Loco
Sat May 15, 2010 12:29 pm

How about ID 17 and 18 :) My Legs have the ID from 1-10, the Arms 11-16 and therefore I would choose ID 17 and 18. I always recommend to make little stickers with the ID on it.
How about ID 17 and 18 :) My Legs have the ID from 1-10, the Arms 11-16 and therefore I would choose ID 17 and 18. I always recommend to make little stickers with the ID on it.
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Post by hamid_m » Sat May 15, 2010 9:41 pm

Post by hamid_m
Sat May 15, 2010 9:41 pm

Hi,

You could also embed the pan motor between the arm motors. this way the head looks more realistic.

Best regards,
Hamid.
Hi,

You could also embed the pan motor between the arm motors. this way the head looks more realistic.

Best regards,
Hamid.
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Post by pikaj00 » Sun May 16, 2010 11:27 pm

Post by pikaj00
Sun May 16, 2010 11:27 pm

il try that actually put the motor in between but there are alot of cables in there i guess i could get rid of since we are only working with the two head servos for now...
il try that actually put the motor in between but there are alot of cables in there i guess i could get rid of since we are only working with the two head servos for now...
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Post by pikaj00 » Tue May 18, 2010 2:56 am

Post by pikaj00
Tue May 18, 2010 2:56 am

i upload the example.hex the same way as calib.hex right? mine wont respond when i fire it up i may be doing something wrong as useuall
i upload the example.hex the same way as calib.hex right? mine wont respond when i fire it up i may be doing something wrong as useuall
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Post by hamid_m » Tue May 18, 2010 8:44 am

Post by hamid_m
Tue May 18, 2010 8:44 am

Hi,

As it looks like, you are using a HaViMo1.5 with the bioloid premium kit. unfortunately the example program is written for CM5. It may not be compatible with CM510. you should port the program into the we platform using the information and libraries provided in:

http://support.robotis.com/en/

We are also working on providing examples for the new platforms, but these would be released in July.

Best regards,
Hamid.
Hi,

As it looks like, you are using a HaViMo1.5 with the bioloid premium kit. unfortunately the example program is written for CM5. It may not be compatible with CM510. you should port the program into the we platform using the information and libraries provided in:

http://support.robotis.com/en/

We are also working on providing examples for the new platforms, but these would be released in July.

Best regards,
Hamid.
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Post by pikaj00 » Tue May 18, 2010 10:07 pm

Post by pikaj00
Tue May 18, 2010 10:07 pm

thanks hamid..il try converting the file over. if not july is only a month and a bit away.. thanks for all your help
thanks hamid..il try converting the file over. if not july is only a month and a bit away.. thanks for all your help
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Post by JULIEN » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:48 pm

Post by JULIEN
Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:48 pm

Hi everybody ! :)

I'm a french guy who's working on a bioloid and havimo for an internship.

I really don't know how I can make them communicate... can I use the behavior control programmer ?

I would like to test the code C sent by hamid_m but I didn't find where I can change all the ID..

could you help me ?

thanks all,
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Hi everybody ! :)

I'm a french guy who's working on a bioloid and havimo for an internship.

I really don't know how I can make them communicate... can I use the behavior control programmer ?

I would like to test the code C sent by hamid_m but I didn't find where I can change all the ID..

could you help me ?

thanks all,
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Cant connect

Post by bluecat » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:08 pm

Post by bluecat
Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:08 pm

hey guys,

well i'm a total newb so i'm guessing its something i'm doing wrong but since i have exhausted all the methods i know, i'm turning to you guys for help.

i'm thinking maby the calibration program for 1.5 dosen't work with havimo 2 at all ?

i have a bioloid premium kit and the havimo 2 module (bought them both here at robosavvy so it is the new havimo 2 not beta)

i have tryed all of the following with no success getting to calibration :

i should mention that i use the USB2Dynamixel to connect to the cm-510, and it connects just awesome at com port 3 i was able to see the havimo 2 on the roboplus at ID 100 when i connected to the cm-510 and the havimo 2 connected to the controller, but i cant get calibration to work.

so basically what i tryed iss :

1. using dynamixeltoUSB i connected to the cm-510 and i uploaded the calib.hex (i guess it dosent work with cm-510 because its coded for the cm-5 but i said why not give it a try) .
i tryed the calibration 1.5 program, and also the usbcalibration program, it manages to connect to com3 and it states Camera not found on the normal calibration1.5 program and on the usb it always states cannot ping camera...

2. i tryed also connecting the havimo 2 to the usb2dynamixel without the cm-510 and i tried again using both the programs by hamid, the usbcalibration and the calibration1.5 and both of them connect to port 3 just fine but fail to find the camera.

i tried setting diffrent speeds at the device manager for the com port (don't ask me why) didn't work, and i'm kinda clueless at this point,

any help would be most appriciated ! :)

thank you! oran.
hey guys,

well i'm a total newb so i'm guessing its something i'm doing wrong but since i have exhausted all the methods i know, i'm turning to you guys for help.

i'm thinking maby the calibration program for 1.5 dosen't work with havimo 2 at all ?

i have a bioloid premium kit and the havimo 2 module (bought them both here at robosavvy so it is the new havimo 2 not beta)

i have tryed all of the following with no success getting to calibration :

i should mention that i use the USB2Dynamixel to connect to the cm-510, and it connects just awesome at com port 3 i was able to see the havimo 2 on the roboplus at ID 100 when i connected to the cm-510 and the havimo 2 connected to the controller, but i cant get calibration to work.

so basically what i tryed iss :

1. using dynamixeltoUSB i connected to the cm-510 and i uploaded the calib.hex (i guess it dosent work with cm-510 because its coded for the cm-5 but i said why not give it a try) .
i tryed the calibration 1.5 program, and also the usbcalibration program, it manages to connect to com3 and it states Camera not found on the normal calibration1.5 program and on the usb it always states cannot ping camera...

2. i tryed also connecting the havimo 2 to the usb2dynamixel without the cm-510 and i tried again using both the programs by hamid, the usbcalibration and the calibration1.5 and both of them connect to port 3 just fine but fail to find the camera.

i tried setting diffrent speeds at the device manager for the com port (don't ask me why) didn't work, and i'm kinda clueless at this point,

any help would be most appriciated ! :)

thank you! oran.
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