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KHR 1HV Motions

Post by Kry10 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:21 pm

Post by Kry10
Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:21 pm

Ive had my khr for a little while now, its been a long and expensive project but certainly worth it! :D :D
The supplied motions were limited (especially walking) so ive done alot of searching and stumbled upon these.
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... n%26sa%3DG
Its only a walking motion which is also suitable for use with the krc kit. I edited them to use the hip rotation too so he can walk forward left or right and also in reverse.
Im collecting all my work together and hope to share it with others soon. :D
Ive had my khr for a little while now, its been a long and expensive project but certainly worth it! :D :D
The supplied motions were limited (especially walking) so ive done alot of searching and stumbled upon these.
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... n%26sa%3DG
Its only a walking motion which is also suitable for use with the krc kit. I edited them to use the hip rotation too so he can walk forward left or right and also in reverse.
Im collecting all my work together and hope to share it with others soon. :D
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KHR 1HV motions link error

Post by Kry10 » Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:47 pm

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Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:47 pm

The link i posted seems to take you to the front page, so click on the bottom right button above the kondo logo called motion transmission service
The link i posted seems to take you to the front page, so click on the bottom right button above the kondo logo called motion transmission service
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Using KHR-2HV Motions with the KHR-1HV

Post by tempusmaster » Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:43 pm

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Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:43 pm

Here's a step by step procedure covering how to convert KHR-2HV motions for use by the KHR-1HV.

Have fun. :D
Here's a step by step procedure covering how to convert KHR-2HV motions for use by the KHR-1HV.

Have fun. :D
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Post by evaderdjo » Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:34 pm

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Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:34 pm

So here is what I think each robot has in terms of standard, preprogrammed motions. Please correct me if I am wrong:

KHR-1 - 7 motions (from the Kondo website)
KHR-2HV - 22 motions (from software manual page 6)
KHR-1HV - 22 motions (because you can convert the 2HV motions to work on the 1HV as well).

Thanks for your assistance.
So here is what I think each robot has in terms of standard, preprogrammed motions. Please correct me if I am wrong:

KHR-1 - 7 motions (from the Kondo website)
KHR-2HV - 22 motions (from software manual page 6)
KHR-1HV - 22 motions (because you can convert the 2HV motions to work on the 1HV as well).

Thanks for your assistance.
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Post by Ghostrider » Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:04 am

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Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:04 am

evaderdjo wrote:So here is what I think each robot has in terms of standard, preprogrammed motions. Please correct me if I am wrong:

KHR-1 - 7 motions (from the Kondo website)
KHR-2HV - 22 motions (from software manual page 6)
KHR-1HV - 22 motions (because you can convert the 2HV motions to work on the 1HV as well).

Thanks for your assistance.

:roll:
Are you a troll?

The reason I ask is that the comparision makes no practical sense, except for a marketing person getting ready to introduce a new robot kit.

Anyway, there are quite a few more KHR-1 motions available online (in Japanese) since the product's been around so long. And there are quite a few, I haven't counted them but guess it's around 20+, other motions online for the KHR-2HV including a lot of the soccer moves used by the KondoCup teams.
evaderdjo wrote:So here is what I think each robot has in terms of standard, preprogrammed motions. Please correct me if I am wrong:

KHR-1 - 7 motions (from the Kondo website)
KHR-2HV - 22 motions (from software manual page 6)
KHR-1HV - 22 motions (because you can convert the 2HV motions to work on the 1HV as well).

Thanks for your assistance.

:roll:
Are you a troll?

The reason I ask is that the comparision makes no practical sense, except for a marketing person getting ready to introduce a new robot kit.

Anyway, there are quite a few more KHR-1 motions available online (in Japanese) since the product's been around so long. And there are quite a few, I haven't counted them but guess it's around 20+, other motions online for the KHR-2HV including a lot of the soccer moves used by the KondoCup teams.
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Post by evaderdjo » Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:45 am

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Sat Sep 08, 2007 2:45 am

I am just a consumer trying to make a purchase decision. Investing $1,000 in a hobby is a LOT of money for me, in fact, I might need to start with a used robot. I need to know everything I possibly can before making a decision to buy, and I am having trouble finding the information I want. I don't read Japanese, and using Altavista doesn't give me the full meaning of things. I have posted in each different robot category of the forums looking for similar information. I wish there was one consolidated place that could let me compare different robots on all of the different aspects I am interested in: price, servo specs, remote control, gyros, grippers, batteries, depth of support from the community, and the number of motions, etc.

Honestly, I am leaning towards the Robonova simply because I have all of my questions answered, and there seems to be more used robots available. HiTec seems to have made a better effort at supporting English speaking customers. The Kondo's may have more torque, more DOF and smoother motions, but I will have to go with the robot I feel comfortable with.
I am just a consumer trying to make a purchase decision. Investing $1,000 in a hobby is a LOT of money for me, in fact, I might need to start with a used robot. I need to know everything I possibly can before making a decision to buy, and I am having trouble finding the information I want. I don't read Japanese, and using Altavista doesn't give me the full meaning of things. I have posted in each different robot category of the forums looking for similar information. I wish there was one consolidated place that could let me compare different robots on all of the different aspects I am interested in: price, servo specs, remote control, gyros, grippers, batteries, depth of support from the community, and the number of motions, etc.

Honestly, I am leaning towards the Robonova simply because I have all of my questions answered, and there seems to be more used robots available. HiTec seems to have made a better effort at supporting English speaking customers. The Kondo's may have more torque, more DOF and smoother motions, but I will have to go with the robot I feel comfortable with.
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Post by daxx2k » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:55 am

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Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:55 am

Hello guys,

I finished a couple of days ago to build the robot + genex suit (it fit perfecly I needed just to remove a spike on the back part of the torso suit)

But today...........I lost my left feet servo :( (ch 21) when I turned on the robot the feet was twisted and I was not able to control with h2h3j.
I tried with the power off and it wasn't free of movement, FET problem?

it means that it's a bug with out khr-1hv ? we are already 3 or 4 person that have got this issue.... can anyone investigate more about it?

the sample motion are 12 and I just renamed and they works. yep the walking sequence its too fast...
I got a lot of balance problem , probably I need to improve my home position, after I installed the gyro the legs were only vibrating and thet weren't keep in balance the robot... :(

Also the radio connection and ics are not working for me.....

Can anyone help me for that?

cheers,

Davide
Hello guys,

I finished a couple of days ago to build the robot + genex suit (it fit perfecly I needed just to remove a spike on the back part of the torso suit)

But today...........I lost my left feet servo :( (ch 21) when I turned on the robot the feet was twisted and I was not able to control with h2h3j.
I tried with the power off and it wasn't free of movement, FET problem?

it means that it's a bug with out khr-1hv ? we are already 3 or 4 person that have got this issue.... can anyone investigate more about it?

the sample motion are 12 and I just renamed and they works. yep the walking sequence its too fast...
I got a lot of balance problem , probably I need to improve my home position, after I installed the gyro the legs were only vibrating and thet weren't keep in balance the robot... :(

Also the radio connection and ics are not working for me.....

Can anyone help me for that?

cheers,

Davide
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Motion samples for KHR-1HV

Post by fizikhocam » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:14 pm

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Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:14 pm

Hi

I completed KHR-1HV with both english and japanese documents. Now ı try to find some motion samples. CD includes some motion examples but they dont work well. I try to understant that problem is created from this files or home position.
Hi

I completed KHR-1HV with both english and japanese documents. Now ı try to find some motion samples. CD includes some motion examples but they dont work well. I try to understant that problem is created from this files or home position.
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Re: Motion samples for KHR-1HV

Post by igor » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:17 am

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Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:17 am

fizikhocam wrote:Hi

I completed KHR-1HV with both english and japanese documents. Now ı try to find some motion samples. CD includes some motion examples but they dont work well. I try to understant that problem is created from this files or home position.


Could you let us more details?

I have an 1HV and the only bad step was in the trim setting and then home position.
fizikhocam wrote:Hi

I completed KHR-1HV with both english and japanese documents. Now ı try to find some motion samples. CD includes some motion examples but they dont work well. I try to understant that problem is created from this files or home position.


Could you let us more details?

I have an 1HV and the only bad step was in the trim setting and then home position.
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ı need sample motions for Khr1-hv

Post by fizikhocam » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:13 am

Post by fizikhocam
Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:13 am

I bought khr-1hv and cd consist of only 12 samples. Can you share example motions if it is possible.


Ghostrider wrote:
evaderdjo wrote:So here is what I think each robot has in terms of standard, preprogrammed motions. Please correct me if I am wrong:

KHR-1 - 7 motions (from the Kondo website)
KHR-2HV - 22 motions (from software manual page 6)
KHR-1HV - 22 motions (because you can convert the 2HV motions to work on the 1HV as well).

Thanks for your assistance.

:roll:
Are you a troll?

The reason I ask is that the comparision makes no practical sense, except for a marketing person getting ready to introduce a new robot kit.

Anyway, there are quite a few more KHR-1 motions available online (in Japanese) since the product's been around so long. And there are quite a few, I haven't counted them but guess it's around 20+, other motions online for the KHR-2HV including a lot of the soccer moves used by the KondoCup teams.
I bought khr-1hv and cd consist of only 12 samples. Can you share example motions if it is possible.


Ghostrider wrote:
evaderdjo wrote:So here is what I think each robot has in terms of standard, preprogrammed motions. Please correct me if I am wrong:

KHR-1 - 7 motions (from the Kondo website)
KHR-2HV - 22 motions (from software manual page 6)
KHR-1HV - 22 motions (because you can convert the 2HV motions to work on the 1HV as well).

Thanks for your assistance.

:roll:
Are you a troll?

The reason I ask is that the comparision makes no practical sense, except for a marketing person getting ready to introduce a new robot kit.

Anyway, there are quite a few more KHR-1 motions available online (in Japanese) since the product's been around so long. And there are quite a few, I haven't counted them but guess it's around 20+, other motions online for the KHR-2HV including a lot of the soccer moves used by the KondoCup teams.
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Motions with KHR-1HV

Post by grasshopper » Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:35 pm

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Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:35 pm

Hi,
can anyone tell me why when I run the bundled motion I dont really know what they do. Someone mentioned something about the "Bow" I tried this motion, but it seems that the top part of the robot does what it is supposed to do but the legs go forward dont know why. When I first plugged in the robot and went to the home position where all servers are set to 0 i got the crucified robot position including a sliht bend in the knee which is was supposed to be after this I clicked on the trim and started to make changes so the robot can stand. after this I dont know what else to do to run a successful motion. Am I missing something?
Hi,
can anyone tell me why when I run the bundled motion I dont really know what they do. Someone mentioned something about the "Bow" I tried this motion, but it seems that the top part of the robot does what it is supposed to do but the legs go forward dont know why. When I first plugged in the robot and went to the home position where all servers are set to 0 i got the crucified robot position including a sliht bend in the knee which is was supposed to be after this I clicked on the trim and started to make changes so the robot can stand. after this I dont know what else to do to run a successful motion. Am I missing something?
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Re: Motions with KHR-1HV

Post by tempusmaster » Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:21 am

Post by tempusmaster
Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:21 am

grasshopper wrote:Hi,
can anyone tell me why when I run the bundled motion I dont really know what they do. Someone mentioned something about the "Bow" I tried this motion, but it seems that the top part of the robot does what it is supposed to do but the legs go forward dont know why. When I first plugged in the robot and went to the home position where all servers are set to 0 i got the crucified robot position including a sliht bend in the knee which is was supposed to be after this I clicked on the trim and started to make changes so the robot can stand. after this I dont know what else to do to run a successful motion. Am I missing something?

It sounds like you haven't setup the Home position yet.

The 'crucified' pose is with all the servos zero'd but with no trim. From there, you need to follow the basic procedure to bring the robot into the Home position pose, and make sure it's saved, before the robot has a reference point to run the stockmotions correctly.

There is quite a bit of information about setting the Home position in the KHR-2HV manual, and in threads on this forum. They should be enough to get you off to a good start.
grasshopper wrote:Hi,
can anyone tell me why when I run the bundled motion I dont really know what they do. Someone mentioned something about the "Bow" I tried this motion, but it seems that the top part of the robot does what it is supposed to do but the legs go forward dont know why. When I first plugged in the robot and went to the home position where all servers are set to 0 i got the crucified robot position including a sliht bend in the knee which is was supposed to be after this I clicked on the trim and started to make changes so the robot can stand. after this I dont know what else to do to run a successful motion. Am I missing something?

It sounds like you haven't setup the Home position yet.

The 'crucified' pose is with all the servos zero'd but with no trim. From there, you need to follow the basic procedure to bring the robot into the Home position pose, and make sure it's saved, before the robot has a reference point to run the stockmotions correctly.

There is quite a bit of information about setting the Home position in the KHR-2HV manual, and in threads on this forum. They should be enough to get you off to a good start.
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Post by grasshopper » Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:03 pm

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I finally got the issue resolved . Apparently I have a couple servors connected to the incorrect port in the RC3. I ended up verifying the each servor, and that is where I came to know about the wrong port. Now I can run each motion bundled in with the CD and it works. To the prospect buyers of this robot. this is really great robot. Things to consider when building one
1. Verify each servor before assembling
2. Servors come with different cable lengths. I found out the hard way when I tried to plugin the servors to the main board it wouln't reach :(
3. Verify the servors again home position
4. Make sure you label the servors properly. A mislabel cable can potentially produce unwanted motions and there is a risk of damage.

Now the next step is for me to get some excellent motion files to test them .. :)
I finally got the issue resolved . Apparently I have a couple servors connected to the incorrect port in the RC3. I ended up verifying the each servor, and that is where I came to know about the wrong port. Now I can run each motion bundled in with the CD and it works. To the prospect buyers of this robot. this is really great robot. Things to consider when building one
1. Verify each servor before assembling
2. Servors come with different cable lengths. I found out the hard way when I tried to plugin the servors to the main board it wouln't reach :(
3. Verify the servors again home position
4. Make sure you label the servors properly. A mislabel cable can potentially produce unwanted motions and there is a risk of damage.

Now the next step is for me to get some excellent motion files to test them .. :)
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Post by plingboot » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:43 am

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Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:43 am

grasshopper wrote:Now the next step is for me to get some excellent motion files to test them.


... not quite as easy as you might think - people are either holding on to them and just not sharing - or there's so few people successfully making good motion files that they're almost impossible to find. :(

i really like my 1HV, but even after hours of catch and play - i've still managed to create almost nothing. :shock:
grasshopper wrote:Now the next step is for me to get some excellent motion files to test them.


... not quite as easy as you might think - people are either holding on to them and just not sharing - or there's so few people successfully making good motion files that they're almost impossible to find. :(

i really like my 1HV, but even after hours of catch and play - i've still managed to create almost nothing. :shock:
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Post by zaboomafuu » Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:41 pm

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got mine working right now took his first steps on newyears day obvious stability problems tho. any one know of any issues using a idg300 on the 1hv?
got mine working right now took his first steps on newyears day obvious stability problems tho. any one know of any issues using a idg300 on the 1hv?
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