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what to buy robonova,khr-1 or bioloid?

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what to buy robonova,khr-1 or bioloid?

Post by constantfiend » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:38 pm

Post by constantfiend
Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:38 pm

Firstly hello to all of you and thanks in advance for any advice and help.

As from the subject title my question is simple which one do i buy?
The robonova looks from the pictures and vid clips i've seen the best quality in terms of it's final look.
The bioloid lookd great fun with all the variaitons that can be made but the quality of parts again from pics and vids doesn't look so good.
And the khr=1 with it's 19 dof looks the programmable for variation of movements.

Help can anyone shed some unbiased advice or opinions on the three models with regards to quality etc.

I have no previous robotic experience but can pick things up quickly so don't want to be wanting to a more advanced robot after week or so.

cheers.
Firstly hello to all of you and thanks in advance for any advice and help.

As from the subject title my question is simple which one do i buy?
The robonova looks from the pictures and vid clips i've seen the best quality in terms of it's final look.
The bioloid lookd great fun with all the variaitons that can be made but the quality of parts again from pics and vids doesn't look so good.
And the khr=1 with it's 19 dof looks the programmable for variation of movements.

Help can anyone shed some unbiased advice or opinions on the three models with regards to quality etc.

I have no previous robotic experience but can pick things up quickly so don't want to be wanting to a more advanced robot after week or so.

cheers.
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Post by billyzelsnack » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:48 pm

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Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:48 pm

The part quality in the Bioloid kit is very high. It might be plastic, but it is very high quality plastic.
The part quality in the Bioloid kit is very high. It might be plastic, but it is very high quality plastic.
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Post by StuartL » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:18 pm

Post by StuartL
Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:18 pm

I've never used or seen the Kondo kits so I can't comment on them.

However:

The Hitec Robonova is a great "starter" robot. It's easy to use, has remote control capability natively built in, the servos are reasonably strong and it's pretty strong. It's limited to being an android unless you're into major hackery and you have to spend a bit of money and a hell of a lot of time to convert the Robonova into a hacking platform to test out dynamic walking etc. If all you're ever interested in is fixed motions triggered by remote control, such as wrestling competitions, it's a good kit to buy.

The Bioloid kit is much more flexible but the cost of this is that it's harder to use it for the basic stuff. Getting a remote control Bioloid up and running means some electronic geekery but in tethered or preprogrammed motion sequences it works nicely out of the box. The advantages of the Bioloid are three fold:
- You can make any kind of robot your imagination can think of (providing it's got 18 DOF or less :))
- Robotis actively encourage and supply most of the documentation for you to hack the microcontroller, bus system and servos to install your own software.
- The servos supplied with the kit have torque, position and speed feedback across the 1Mbps bus. This means that should you want to investigate dynamic balance you already have the hardware and you only have to spend the rest of your life developing the software.
I've never used or seen the Kondo kits so I can't comment on them.

However:

The Hitec Robonova is a great "starter" robot. It's easy to use, has remote control capability natively built in, the servos are reasonably strong and it's pretty strong. It's limited to being an android unless you're into major hackery and you have to spend a bit of money and a hell of a lot of time to convert the Robonova into a hacking platform to test out dynamic walking etc. If all you're ever interested in is fixed motions triggered by remote control, such as wrestling competitions, it's a good kit to buy.

The Bioloid kit is much more flexible but the cost of this is that it's harder to use it for the basic stuff. Getting a remote control Bioloid up and running means some electronic geekery but in tethered or preprogrammed motion sequences it works nicely out of the box. The advantages of the Bioloid are three fold:
- You can make any kind of robot your imagination can think of (providing it's got 18 DOF or less :))
- Robotis actively encourage and supply most of the documentation for you to hack the microcontroller, bus system and servos to install your own software.
- The servos supplied with the kit have torque, position and speed feedback across the 1Mbps bus. This means that should you want to investigate dynamic balance you already have the hardware and you only have to spend the rest of your life developing the software.
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