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No communication using KRT-3 and KRR-1

Post by igor » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:18 pm

Post by igor
Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:18 pm

Hi all,

I've a KHR-1HV with 2xKRG-3 and 1xRAS-2 sensors, and Radio Control Unit (Kondo part number: 01105).

My problem is that the robot no respond to command sent from PC. Only a red LED blinks on RCB-3 board.

I've reviewed the docummentation from RCB-3 and I make the steps as page 32. Only that the line: KRC-1から制御する in Option window is no checked. When checked the red LED no blinks.

Is necessary any steps more?.

Thanks for your attention.
Hi all,

I've a KHR-1HV with 2xKRG-3 and 1xRAS-2 sensors, and Radio Control Unit (Kondo part number: 01105).

My problem is that the robot no respond to command sent from PC. Only a red LED blinks on RCB-3 board.

I've reviewed the docummentation from RCB-3 and I make the steps as page 32. Only that the line: KRC-1から制御する in Option window is no checked. When checked the red LED no blinks.

Is necessary any steps more?.

Thanks for your attention.
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Post by limor » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:14 am

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Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:14 am

hi Igor,

it is not clear from your post if everything else works except for command execution.. and what exactly do you mean by remote command .
hi Igor,

it is not clear from your post if everything else works except for command execution.. and what exactly do you mean by remote command .
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Re: No communication using KRT-3 and KRR-1

Post by tempusmaster » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:55 pm

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Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:55 pm

igor wrote:Hi all,

I've a KHR-1HV with 2xKRG-3 and 1xRAS-2 sensors, and Radio Control Unit (Kondo part number: 01105).

My problem is that the robot no respond to command sent from PC. Only a red LED blinks on RCB-3 board.

I've reviewed the docummentation from RCB-3 and I make the steps as page 32. Only that the line: KRC-1から制御する in Option window is no checked. When checked the red LED no blinks.

Is necessary any steps more?.

Thanks for your attention.


Perhaps this will help:

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If that's set correctly, then you need to assign key codes to the individual motion sequences. The easiest way is to use the table function, but you could also do it by clicking on the start flag in each motion, assign the key, then download the motion to the RCB3.

If not, as Limor mentioned, we'll need more detail to try and figure out what problem you're running into.
igor wrote:Hi all,

I've a KHR-1HV with 2xKRG-3 and 1xRAS-2 sensors, and Radio Control Unit (Kondo part number: 01105).

My problem is that the robot no respond to command sent from PC. Only a red LED blinks on RCB-3 board.

I've reviewed the docummentation from RCB-3 and I make the steps as page 32. Only that the line: KRC-1から制御する in Option window is no checked. When checked the red LED no blinks.

Is necessary any steps more?.

Thanks for your attention.


Perhaps this will help:

Image

If that's set correctly, then you need to assign key codes to the individual motion sequences. The easiest way is to use the table function, but you could also do it by clicking on the start flag in each motion, assign the key, then download the motion to the RCB3.

If not, as Limor mentioned, we'll need more detail to try and figure out what problem you're running into.
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Post by igor » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:31 pm

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Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:31 pm

Thanks for your time,

I refer to USB remote control unit(01105). My problem is that I can not communicate this with robot.

I suppose that this module replace the USB/serial module, or this only replace a KRC-1 remote controller unit(01110) ?

The USB/Serial module appear in my PC as COM5, and the USB Remote appear as COM6. Changing to COM6 port the robot make nothing.

The Option window it is like Tempusmaster has indicated.

I thank your comments.
Thanks for your time,

I refer to USB remote control unit(01105). My problem is that I can not communicate this with robot.

I suppose that this module replace the USB/serial module, or this only replace a KRC-1 remote controller unit(01110) ?

The USB/Serial module appear in my PC as COM5, and the USB Remote appear as COM6. Changing to COM6 port the robot make nothing.

The Option window it is like Tempusmaster has indicated.

I thank your comments.
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Post by zhongwen » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:54 am

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Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:54 am

The USB remote controller should be replace a KRC-1 remote controller unit(01110).
The USB remote controller should be replace a KRC-1 remote controller unit(01110).
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Post by igor » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:11 am

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Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:11 am

Is right, I'm setting like manual of RCB3J English version, pages 30-31 and my doubt is in the this step (page 31):

"While data dialog is indicated, turn on the KRC-1 to keep discharging the radio wave and go on push the button to be allocated.
Under this state, click the 'receive' button of data dialog. If the number of control input changes, setting is completed.
Now you can release the button of sender.
Setting is written completely to RCB-3J when data dialogue is closed."

How I can to discharge the radio wave using KRT-3 and PC to set the "Control Input" number in text box on "DataDlg" window?
Is right, I'm setting like manual of RCB3J English version, pages 30-31 and my doubt is in the this step (page 31):

"While data dialog is indicated, turn on the KRC-1 to keep discharging the radio wave and go on push the button to be allocated.
Under this state, click the 'receive' button of data dialog. If the number of control input changes, setting is completed.
Now you can release the button of sender.
Setting is written completely to RCB-3J when data dialogue is closed."

How I can to discharge the radio wave using KRT-3 and PC to set the "Control Input" number in text box on "DataDlg" window?
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Post by zhongwen » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:37 am

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Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:37 am

I guess you can just ignor the message. And aim at your target that is you want to get the "Control Input"number.
Instead of "receive it " , You may just input it. For example input "1", then try to press "1" to control the KHR, see if it move as you want.
I guess you can just ignor the message. And aim at your target that is you want to get the "Control Input"number.
Instead of "receive it " , You may just input it. For example input "1", then try to press "1" to control the KHR, see if it move as you want.
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Post by tempusmaster » Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:12 am

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Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:12 am

igor wrote:Is right, I'm setting like manual of RCB3J English version, pages 30-31 and my doubt is in the this step (page 31):

"While data dialog is indicated, turn on the KRC-1 to keep discharging the radio wave and go on push the button to be allocated.
Under this state, click the 'receive' button of data dialog. If the number of control input changes, setting is completed.
Now you can release the button of sender.
Setting is written completely to RCB-3J when data dialogue is closed."

How I can to discharge the radio wave using KRT-3 and PC to set the "Control Input" number in text box on "DataDlg" window?


Let me try to explain it a different way-

In H2H3 there are a couple places where you can associate the remote control key codes with specific motions or scenarios. It can be done double clicking on the motion window to bring up the dialog box, or by using the Table function (my preferred method).

The setting process is the same in both cases.

    o H2H3 needs to be running and connected to the robot/RCB3 via the RCB3 high speed port.
    o The remote receiver module should be plugged into the RCB3 low speed port.
    o Bring up the setting dialog box in H2H3.
    o Make sure your remote is turned on.
    o Press and hold the remote key you want to assign to the motion.
    o While keeping the key depressed, click on the 'Reception' button in the dialog box.

If everything is working correctly, H2H3 will sense, via the RCB3, the keycode that's being sent from the remote, and will automatically enter it in the Control Input field on the form.

If the displayed code doesn't change, then you have a problem with the remote communicating with the receiver module, or some other issue.

You can enter the codes manually, of course, but doing it that way doesn't verify that the communication is working between the remote and the receiver/RCB3.
igor wrote:Is right, I'm setting like manual of RCB3J English version, pages 30-31 and my doubt is in the this step (page 31):

"While data dialog is indicated, turn on the KRC-1 to keep discharging the radio wave and go on push the button to be allocated.
Under this state, click the 'receive' button of data dialog. If the number of control input changes, setting is completed.
Now you can release the button of sender.
Setting is written completely to RCB-3J when data dialogue is closed."

How I can to discharge the radio wave using KRT-3 and PC to set the "Control Input" number in text box on "DataDlg" window?


Let me try to explain it a different way-

In H2H3 there are a couple places where you can associate the remote control key codes with specific motions or scenarios. It can be done double clicking on the motion window to bring up the dialog box, or by using the Table function (my preferred method).

The setting process is the same in both cases.

    o H2H3 needs to be running and connected to the robot/RCB3 via the RCB3 high speed port.
    o The remote receiver module should be plugged into the RCB3 low speed port.
    o Bring up the setting dialog box in H2H3.
    o Make sure your remote is turned on.
    o Press and hold the remote key you want to assign to the motion.
    o While keeping the key depressed, click on the 'Reception' button in the dialog box.

If everything is working correctly, H2H3 will sense, via the RCB3, the keycode that's being sent from the remote, and will automatically enter it in the Control Input field on the form.

If the displayed code doesn't change, then you have a problem with the remote communicating with the receiver module, or some other issue.

You can enter the codes manually, of course, but doing it that way doesn't verify that the communication is working between the remote and the receiver/RCB3.
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Post by igor » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:38 am

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Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:38 am

zhongwen wrote:I guess you can just ignor the message. And aim at your target that is you want to get the "Control Input"number.
Instead of "receive it " , You may just input it. For example input "1", then try to press "1" to control the KHR, see if it move as you want.

Thanks, but I tried it without goal.


tempusmaster wrote:...
o Press and hold the remote key you want to assign to the motion.
...

I understand that you refer to KRC-1 when you mentioned this. But I don't have KRC-1. Only KRT-3 and my PC.

I should use other program aside from HTH3?
zhongwen wrote:I guess you can just ignor the message. And aim at your target that is you want to get the "Control Input"number.
Instead of "receive it " , You may just input it. For example input "1", then try to press "1" to control the KHR, see if it move as you want.

Thanks, but I tried it without goal.


tempusmaster wrote:...
o Press and hold the remote key you want to assign to the motion.
...

I understand that you refer to KRC-1 when you mentioned this. But I don't have KRC-1. Only KRT-3 and my PC.

I should use other program aside from HTH3?
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Post by tempusmaster » Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:53 am

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Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:53 am

igor wrote:
zhongwen wrote:I guess you can just ignor the message. And aim at your target that is you want to get the "Control Input"number.
Instead of "receive it " , You may just input it. For example input "1", then try to press "1" to control the KHR, see if it move as you want.

Thanks, but I tried it without goal.


tempusmaster wrote:...
o Press and hold the remote key you want to assign to the motion.
...

I understand that you refer to KRC-1 when you mentioned this. But I don't have KRC-1. Only KRT-3 and my PC.

I should use other program aside from HTH3?


Something needs to send commands to the KRT-3 to transfer to the robot. There are a couple applications on the Kondo website you might try:

RCBCommander allows you to create buttons and assign them to motions or scenarios. It's basically a KRC-1 on the PC. The documentation is only in Japanese, but it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

RunTaku - a very primative application with buttons for each motion and scenario.

I haven't tried them with the KRT-3 yet, but from the docs the RCBCommander will probably do what you're looking for. RunTaku might also - it's hard to tell without trying them.
igor wrote:
zhongwen wrote:I guess you can just ignor the message. And aim at your target that is you want to get the "Control Input"number.
Instead of "receive it " , You may just input it. For example input "1", then try to press "1" to control the KHR, see if it move as you want.

Thanks, but I tried it without goal.


tempusmaster wrote:...
o Press and hold the remote key you want to assign to the motion.
...

I understand that you refer to KRC-1 when you mentioned this. But I don't have KRC-1. Only KRT-3 and my PC.

I should use other program aside from HTH3?


Something needs to send commands to the KRT-3 to transfer to the robot. There are a couple applications on the Kondo website you might try:

RCBCommander allows you to create buttons and assign them to motions or scenarios. It's basically a KRC-1 on the PC. The documentation is only in Japanese, but it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

RunTaku - a very primative application with buttons for each motion and scenario.

I haven't tried them with the KRT-3 yet, but from the docs the RCBCommander will probably do what you're looking for. RunTaku might also - it's hard to tell without trying them.
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Post by tempusmaster » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:58 pm

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Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:58 pm

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It may be obvious, but just in case it isn't, the antenna needs to be installed on the KRT-3 using the screw on the top, and should be in a position where there's good signal strength to the KRR receiver antenna. And, the transmitter and receiver frequencies have to match - i.e. a Ad-3 transmitter crystal will only talk to a Ad-3 receiver.

Also, I checked a couple of Japanese sites, and they both recommended using the RCBCommander application with the KRT-3.
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It may be obvious, but just in case it isn't, the antenna needs to be installed on the KRT-3 using the screw on the top, and should be in a position where there's good signal strength to the KRR receiver antenna. And, the transmitter and receiver frequencies have to match - i.e. a Ad-3 transmitter crystal will only talk to a Ad-3 receiver.

Also, I checked a couple of Japanese sites, and they both recommended using the RCBCommander application with the KRT-3.
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