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Sensor Question?

Post by Droid Works » Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:18 am

Post by Droid Works
Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:18 am

What is the max number of sensors you can put in the KHR-1HV and KHR-2HV?
What is the max number of sensors you can put in the KHR-1HV and KHR-2HV?
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Re: Sensor Question?

Post by Ghostrider » Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:32 am

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Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:32 am

Droid Works wrote:What is the max number of sensors you can put in the KHR-1HV and KHR-2HV?



That must be a trick question.

:wink:

It's listed on almost every site that carries the KHR robots, and in numerous articles, and in the English manuals....

or are you just incredibly lazy?
Droid Works wrote:What is the max number of sensors you can put in the KHR-1HV and KHR-2HV?



That must be a trick question.

:wink:

It's listed on almost every site that carries the KHR robots, and in numerous articles, and in the English manuals....

or are you just incredibly lazy?
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Post by Droid Works » Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:45 pm

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Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:45 pm

I know what the manuals say but is there a way to give it more sensors. I was hoping there is to be some way to add more.
I know what the manuals say but is there a way to give it more sensors. I was hoping there is to be some way to add more.
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Post by Ghostrider » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:59 am

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:59 am

Droid Works wrote:I know what the manuals say but is there a way to give it more sensors. I was hoping there is to be some way to add more.

Fair enough.

I assumed that you already knew at least one way given your post on the previous thread - http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1430

Anyway, the stock controller (RCB3 or RCB3J depending on the robot) has three standard analog inputs. There is also rumored to be a way to get a few more analog inputs (8-bit probably) for master/slave control, though I haven't seen any English documentation or write-up. You also have the spare channels that can be used as disgital signal outputs to control a multiplexer. And, beyond that, you can always change the controller to something with more sensor channels.
Droid Works wrote:I know what the manuals say but is there a way to give it more sensors. I was hoping there is to be some way to add more.

Fair enough.

I assumed that you already knew at least one way given your post on the previous thread - http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1430

Anyway, the stock controller (RCB3 or RCB3J depending on the robot) has three standard analog inputs. There is also rumored to be a way to get a few more analog inputs (8-bit probably) for master/slave control, though I haven't seen any English documentation or write-up. You also have the spare channels that can be used as disgital signal outputs to control a multiplexer. And, beyond that, you can always change the controller to something with more sensor channels.
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Post by Droid Works » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:38 am

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:38 am

Thanks for the info. I was hoping there was a hack but I guess we are stuck with just the three for now. Hopefuly we will have the English translations soon.
Thanks for the info. I was hoping there was a hack but I guess we are stuck with just the three for now. Hopefuly we will have the English translations soon.
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Post by Alpha2 » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:00 pm

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:00 pm

Kyosho will soon ship "Manoi sensor board" which can be connected to RCB3HV. Although detail of this board is not announced, this board has 32 sensor ports.

Today Kondo announced the update of RCB3HV controller to ver1.1. This update is required to connect "Manoi sensor board".

http://www.kondo-robot.com/html/TechInf ... pdate.html

RCB3J on KHR-2HV can not be connected to "Manoi sensor board".
Kyosho will soon ship "Manoi sensor board" which can be connected to RCB3HV. Although detail of this board is not announced, this board has 32 sensor ports.

Today Kondo announced the update of RCB3HV controller to ver1.1. This update is required to connect "Manoi sensor board".

http://www.kondo-robot.com/html/TechInf ... pdate.html

RCB3J on KHR-2HV can not be connected to "Manoi sensor board".
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Post by Droid Works » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:20 pm

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:20 pm

That is awesome! Any English docs on it?
That is awesome! Any English docs on it?
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Post by Orac » Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:24 pm

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Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:24 pm

I would almost guarantee that there will be no English documents for this. I will have to drag out my PDF converter again.

I can't blame them really. I don't think they ever intended to have a mass market for these products outside of Japan.

Producing good quality English software and documentation means that the entire world will expect to buy these and expect a high standard of support that Kondo just don't seem to be prepared for.

God knows what I would do if any of my companies products caught on in Japan....
I would almost guarantee that there will be no English documents for this. I will have to drag out my PDF converter again.

I can't blame them really. I don't think they ever intended to have a mass market for these products outside of Japan.

Producing good quality English software and documentation means that the entire world will expect to buy these and expect a high standard of support that Kondo just don't seem to be prepared for.

God knows what I would do if any of my companies products caught on in Japan....
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Post by Droid Works » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:49 am

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Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:49 am

What we need is a guy to do for the KHR what Mat Bauer did for the Robonova.
What we need is a guy to do for the KHR what Mat Bauer did for the Robonova.
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Post by Alpha2 » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:13 pm

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Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:13 pm

Tempusmaster posted a short article on robots-dreams.com.

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/08/mo ... s-for.html
Tempusmaster posted a short article on robots-dreams.com.

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/08/mo ... s-for.html
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Post by tempusmaster » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:20 am

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Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:20 am

Alpha2 wrote:Tempusmaster posted a short article on robots-dreams.com.

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/08/mo ... s-for.html

I would have posted more, but there doesn't seem to be much information released yet. The links on the Kondo website only show the earlier RCB-3 manual and H2H3 application. On the Kyosho site they show a photo of the new board on their sensor page, but don't have any other information yet. Neither company has sent out a press release email yet.

We'll probably know more soon though with ROBO-ONE 12 only a couple weeks away. That's one of the major events for both companies and they wouldn't miss the chance to promote a new board like this..
Alpha2 wrote:Tempusmaster posted a short article on robots-dreams.com.

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/08/mo ... s-for.html

I would have posted more, but there doesn't seem to be much information released yet. The links on the Kondo website only show the earlier RCB-3 manual and H2H3 application. On the Kyosho site they show a photo of the new board on their sensor page, but don't have any other information yet. Neither company has sent out a press release email yet.

We'll probably know more soon though with ROBO-ONE 12 only a couple weeks away. That's one of the major events for both companies and they wouldn't miss the chance to promote a new board like this..
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Post by Orac » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:32 pm

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Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:32 pm

Looking at the latest post,

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/09/ne ... -mano.html

I went to the shop and it looks like if you buy one they give you a voucher to update the firmware for free.

My worry is that if I update the firmware, I may have to use a different version of H2H which may not be translated into English.
Looking at the latest post,

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/09/ne ... -mano.html

I went to the shop and it looks like if you buy one they give you a voucher to update the firmware for free.

My worry is that if I update the firmware, I may have to use a different version of H2H which may not be translated into English.
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Post by tempusmaster » Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:26 pm

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Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:26 pm

Orac wrote:Looking at the latest post,

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/09/ne ... -mano.html

I went to the shop and it looks like if you buy one they give you a voucher to update the firmware for free.

My worry is that if I update the firmware, I may have to use a different version of H2H which may not be translated into English.

True enough. H2H3J is the only version that's been translated into English. The other H2H3 versions are only in Japanese, at least so far.

On the other hand, selections are in the same place, so if you work through the docs enough to understand what's going on, then you can make a little cheat-sheet to tell you which selections or buttons to hit.
Orac wrote:Looking at the latest post,

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2007/09/ne ... -mano.html

I went to the shop and it looks like if you buy one they give you a voucher to update the firmware for free.

My worry is that if I update the firmware, I may have to use a different version of H2H which may not be translated into English.

True enough. H2H3J is the only version that's been translated into English. The other H2H3 versions are only in Japanese, at least so far.

On the other hand, selections are in the same place, so if you work through the docs enough to understand what's going on, then you can make a little cheat-sheet to tell you which selections or buttons to hit.
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