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Gyro and accelerometer

Post by Trebor » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:47 am

Post by Trebor
Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:47 am

Hello,

I have purchased both a Gyro and an accelerometer. I do not see any information on the accelerometer anywhere. I do not even see it in the store. Did it die and is no longer useful?

Robert
Hello,

I have purchased both a Gyro and an accelerometer. I do not see any information on the accelerometer anywhere. I do not even see it in the store. Did it die and is no longer useful?

Robert
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Post by zulu » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:47 am

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:47 am

The kondo catalog for the KHR-2 shows it as an accessory for their HV line and there are three analog/digital pins on the RCB3J board, but in the PDF manual for the RCB3J board the only reference I see is for installing and configuring the KRG-3 gyro. I'm also curious about the ICS references for servo adjustment on the RCB3J, the PDF manuel makes it look like the special cable is not needed?
The kondo catalog for the KHR-2 shows it as an accessory for their HV line and there are three analog/digital pins on the RCB3J board, but in the PDF manual for the RCB3J board the only reference I see is for installing and configuring the KRG-3 gyro. I'm also curious about the ICS references for servo adjustment on the RCB3J, the PDF manuel makes it look like the special cable is not needed?
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Re: Gyro and accelerometer

Post by tempusmaster » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:05 am

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:05 am

Trebor wrote:Hello,

I have purchased both a Gyro and an accelerometer. I do not see any information on the accelerometer anywhere. I do not even see it in the store. Did it die and is no longer useful?

Robert

Which accelerometer, and which robot? The KHR-1/RCB-1 and KHR-2HV/RCB-3J are completely different when it comes to gyros and other sensors.

Did you end up replacing the burned servos, or have you moved up to the KHR-2HV?
Trebor wrote:Hello,

I have purchased both a Gyro and an accelerometer. I do not see any information on the accelerometer anywhere. I do not even see it in the store. Did it die and is no longer useful?

Robert

Which accelerometer, and which robot? The KHR-1/RCB-1 and KHR-2HV/RCB-3J are completely different when it comes to gyros and other sensors.

Did you end up replacing the burned servos, or have you moved up to the KHR-2HV?
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Post by rrdiaz30 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:54 am

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:54 am

I'm also curious about the ICS references for servo adjustment on the RCB3J, the PDF manuel makes it look like the special cable is not needed?


I was fumbling around last night with Heart-to-Heart v3 which came with the KHR-2HV, and I found a screen with all the ICS servo settings (speed, dead band width, limits...). Anyone seen this? Must look into it more tonight.

EDIT - Found it on page 34 of the RCB3J manual, and page 54/55 of the KHR-2HV hardware manual.

Rick
I'm also curious about the ICS references for servo adjustment on the RCB3J, the PDF manuel makes it look like the special cable is not needed?


I was fumbling around last night with Heart-to-Heart v3 which came with the KHR-2HV, and I found a screen with all the ICS servo settings (speed, dead band width, limits...). Anyone seen this? Must look into it more tonight.

EDIT - Found it on page 34 of the RCB3J manual, and page 54/55 of the KHR-2HV hardware manual.

Rick
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Post by rrdiaz30 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:01 pm

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:01 pm

ICS servo setting with the RCB3J.

I extracted page 34 of the RCB3J manual and page 54/55 of the main hardware manual into a JPEG and converted the text to english using BabelFish. The results are here:

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/RCB3J_pg34.zip

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/ ... g54_55.zip

I will try setting servo limits tonight with the kit supplied cable.

Rick
ICS servo setting with the RCB3J.

I extracted page 34 of the RCB3J manual and page 54/55 of the main hardware manual into a JPEG and converted the text to english using BabelFish. The results are here:

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/RCB3J_pg34.zip

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/ ... g54_55.zip

I will try setting servo limits tonight with the kit supplied cable.

Rick
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Post by Jerry » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:28 pm

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:28 pm

Hey there, rrdiaz30 - wondering if you would mind giving me some instructions on the translation process you used to create the examples you posted? I'd LOVE to translate the manuals as you have done in your examples. I've been working with Japanese Translators, and this would go a long way in helping us!

I'd need pretty explicit instructions, if you wouldn't mind!
Hey there, rrdiaz30 - wondering if you would mind giving me some instructions on the translation process you used to create the examples you posted? I'd LOVE to translate the manuals as you have done in your examples. I've been working with Japanese Translators, and this would go a long way in helping us!

I'd need pretty explicit instructions, if you wouldn't mind!
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Post by rrdiaz30 » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:27 pm

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:27 pm

Hi Jerry,

I'll PM you with my proceedure.

I just verified that you can set ICS servo settings through the RCB-3J with the supplied cord and Heart-to-Heart ver 3.0, so there is no need to purchase the ICS servo manager kit for the KHR-2HV and stock servos. I also found out how to put together a custom POS screen. Here is my test example:

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/ ... SCreen.jpg

Forgive the poor resolution on the screen capture.

If anyone is interested, I'll put together a word DOC file on how-to's.

EDIT - I put together a doc on how to customize the POS gui inside of Heart-to-Heart v3.0:

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/ ... ations.pdf

Rick
Hi Jerry,

I'll PM you with my proceedure.

I just verified that you can set ICS servo settings through the RCB-3J with the supplied cord and Heart-to-Heart ver 3.0, so there is no need to purchase the ICS servo manager kit for the KHR-2HV and stock servos. I also found out how to put together a custom POS screen. Here is my test example:

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/ ... SCreen.jpg

Forgive the poor resolution on the screen capture.

If anyone is interested, I'll put together a word DOC file on how-to's.

EDIT - I put together a doc on how to customize the POS gui inside of Heart-to-Heart v3.0:

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/rrdiaz30/ ... ations.pdf

Rick
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Post by zulu » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:58 pm

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Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:58 pm

rrdiaz30 wrote:I just verified that you can set ICS servo settings through the RCB-3J with the supplied cord and Heart-to-Heart ver 3.0, so there is no need to purchase the ICS servo manager kit for the KHR-2HV and stock servos.

Rick


when you say "supplied cord" your refering to just the standard servo hookup to the RCB-3J, right? Also the original question of this topic I think refered to the RAS-1 Accelerometer and its use in the KHR-2 which still isn't absolutely clear. This modual has 6 pins I'm assuming three for each axis. Now if I have two KRG-3 gyros and there are only 3 A/D ports on the RCB-3J then how do I hook them all up? Do I use the RSC-1HV SENSOR CONTROL BOARD? And if I do where do I plug that in? Do I need to separately power it with 5V? So many questions and even translating the supplied PDF files or the documents on Kondo's web site yeilds no answers and the people at Kondo refuse to reply to any American emails even when I translate them ;) ... maybe theres only one dude over there and he's just stressed putting all the packages together and answering the phones :}
rrdiaz30 wrote:I just verified that you can set ICS servo settings through the RCB-3J with the supplied cord and Heart-to-Heart ver 3.0, so there is no need to purchase the ICS servo manager kit for the KHR-2HV and stock servos.

Rick


when you say "supplied cord" your refering to just the standard servo hookup to the RCB-3J, right? Also the original question of this topic I think refered to the RAS-1 Accelerometer and its use in the KHR-2 which still isn't absolutely clear. This modual has 6 pins I'm assuming three for each axis. Now if I have two KRG-3 gyros and there are only 3 A/D ports on the RCB-3J then how do I hook them all up? Do I use the RSC-1HV SENSOR CONTROL BOARD? And if I do where do I plug that in? Do I need to separately power it with 5V? So many questions and even translating the supplied PDF files or the documents on Kondo's web site yeilds no answers and the people at Kondo refuse to reply to any American emails even when I translate them ;) ... maybe theres only one dude over there and he's just stressed putting all the packages together and answering the phones :}
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Post by rrdiaz30 » Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:02 am

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:02 am

Hello zulu,

Yes, use the standard hookup cord to the RCB3J that is in the kit. Can't help you out with the gyro, mine is not in yet. Should be here next week, so I'll get to that fire then.

Regards,

Rick
Hello zulu,

Yes, use the standard hookup cord to the RCB3J that is in the kit. Can't help you out with the gyro, mine is not in yet. Should be here next week, so I'll get to that fire then.

Regards,

Rick
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Post by zulu » Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:24 am

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:24 am

the gyros look well documented but the other goodies (I dont have) are not mentioned, I could probably dig throught the KHr1 documentation for clues, and I do mean clues because BabbelFish and Google translators leave me scratchn my head a few times - sounds like Yoda doing the translating - "We make do, must my jedi friend!"
the gyros look well documented but the other goodies (I dont have) are not mentioned, I could probably dig throught the KHr1 documentation for clues, and I do mean clues because BabbelFish and Google translators leave me scratchn my head a few times - sounds like Yoda doing the translating - "We make do, must my jedi friend!"
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Post by Trebor » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 pm

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Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:30 pm

KHR-1/RCB-1, The Accelerometer that I bought was from this site for the KHR-1. I did replace the servos with standard replacements. I only get cracks of time to work on my robot so it has been difficult figuring things out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
KHR-1/RCB-1, The Accelerometer that I bought was from this site for the KHR-1. I did replace the servos with standard replacements. I only get cracks of time to work on my robot so it has been difficult figuring things out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Post by noDNA » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:42 am

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Message for Zulu:

RSC-1HV sensor control board is designed to work only with RCB-1HV boards. There is no way to get it to work with the RCB-3 board of the KHR-2HV (different protocol),

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