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A I for Robonova ??

Post by rep001 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:47 am

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Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:47 am

Can anyone offer info on speech modules for the robo or sensors etc.I am keen for as much A I as i can get .
Can anyone offer info on speech modules for the robo or sensors etc.I am keen for as much A I as i can get .
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Post by subpilot » Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:07 am

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Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:07 am

For speech applications there are two ways to go, an embedded solution generally using a Winbond chip like in the Devantech SP03 Text to Speech Synthesizer. The other way to go is to offload the text to speech function to a PC and send the audio wirelessly. That's how I went by using a Bluetooth Headset and audio amp. The advantages the PC has over the embedded version is much higher quality speech with very little "robo" sound and an unlimited vocabulary. If you don't care if it sounds robot like then the speech module is easier to implement. Both ways take up a bit of valuable real estate on your Robonova and will require some hacking.
As for AI, it's going to be a bit limited using Robobasic. You will have to poll all your sensors and then react after the fact. Not an ideal situation, but you can get some interesting interactions.
There isn't alot of physical room for expansion so you have to try to keep everything as small as possible.
For speech applications there are two ways to go, an embedded solution generally using a Winbond chip like in the Devantech SP03 Text to Speech Synthesizer. The other way to go is to offload the text to speech function to a PC and send the audio wirelessly. That's how I went by using a Bluetooth Headset and audio amp. The advantages the PC has over the embedded version is much higher quality speech with very little "robo" sound and an unlimited vocabulary. If you don't care if it sounds robot like then the speech module is easier to implement. Both ways take up a bit of valuable real estate on your Robonova and will require some hacking.
As for AI, it's going to be a bit limited using Robobasic. You will have to poll all your sensors and then react after the fact. Not an ideal situation, but you can get some interesting interactions.
There isn't alot of physical room for expansion so you have to try to keep everything as small as possible.
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Post by rep001 » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:53 pm

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Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:53 pm

I was hoping that the Robo would be more than just a program and drive bot.Not at all experienced at this so please bare with my thoughts but i would like more feedback from robo even as simple as with the Sapien my son has,that does at least give you some interaction.I guess with time things will become available to bolt on or maybe i need further guidance to trail a differnet path ?
I was hoping that the Robo would be more than just a program and drive bot.Not at all experienced at this so please bare with my thoughts but i would like more feedback from robo even as simple as with the Sapien my son has,that does at least give you some interaction.I guess with time things will become available to bolt on or maybe i need further guidance to trail a differnet path ?
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Post by subpilot » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:25 pm

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Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:25 pm

Well don't try to compare it with RoboSapien. That's a toy and RoboNova is more of an experimenters platform. If you are not fairly skilled in electronics and programming you aren't going to be able to get all you want from RoboNova. It's a great starting platform but you'd get bored fast if you don't plan to hack it.
There maybe some "bolt on" accesories down the road but you need to dive in to the guts to get the most out of it. I see a future with tons of homebrew add ons and software routines. I'm not shy about taking a soldering iron and dremel to my RoboNova and there's a great sense of accomplishment when you get it to react to sensors, talk etc
Well don't try to compare it with RoboSapien. That's a toy and RoboNova is more of an experimenters platform. If you are not fairly skilled in electronics and programming you aren't going to be able to get all you want from RoboNova. It's a great starting platform but you'd get bored fast if you don't plan to hack it.
There maybe some "bolt on" accesories down the road but you need to dive in to the guts to get the most out of it. I see a future with tons of homebrew add ons and software routines. I'm not shy about taking a soldering iron and dremel to my RoboNova and there's a great sense of accomplishment when you get it to react to sensors, talk etc
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Post by bauermech » Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:50 pm

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Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:50 pm

Amen Subpilot! However rep001, I'm finishing up a control program in VB6 for the robonova. I'll be posting it up for download within a day or so. Should help some.
Amen Subpilot! However rep001, I'm finishing up a control program in VB6 for the robonova. I'll be posting it up for download within a day or so. Should help some.
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Post by rep001 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:32 pm

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Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:32 pm

The novice needs all available help,Thanks.Just hope you dont get fed up with the amateur questions and problems.I am not afraid to get stuck in,nor am i slow to learn.Im just not sure how to start.I am involved in R/C so that might help ??
Thanks again
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The novice needs all available help,Thanks.Just hope you dont get fed up with the amateur questions and problems.I am not afraid to get stuck in,nor am i slow to learn.Im just not sure how to start.I am involved in R/C so that might help ??
Thanks again
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Post by bauermech » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:56 pm

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That's what we're here for.
That's what we're here for.
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Post by rep001 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:04 pm

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Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:04 pm

I have been reading up on the speakjet chip (magnevation) is that relavant to robo and has anyone tried it ?
I have been reading up on the speakjet chip (magnevation) is that relavant to robo and has anyone tried it ?
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Post by subpilot » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:46 pm

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It's an option but the speech quality is pretty poor. Checkout the difference between these three samples.

Speakjet chip based.
http://www.botsandbytes.com/Electronics/SPEAKJET.htm

Devantech Winbond chip based
http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R184-SP03.html

PC Based NeoSpeech
http://www.aisquared.com/Products/zoomt ... synths.cfm
It's an option but the speech quality is pretty poor. Checkout the difference between these three samples.

Speakjet chip based.
http://www.botsandbytes.com/Electronics/SPEAKJET.htm

Devantech Winbond chip based
http://www.acroname.com/robotics/parts/R184-SP03.html

PC Based NeoSpeech
http://www.aisquared.com/Products/zoomt ... synths.cfm
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Post by rep001 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:04 pm

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Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:04 pm

fantastic ! there are options. which one have you tried and are they easy enough to install and play with.i guess the next step is to hook up some sensors and have a spoken responce.
fantastic ! there are options. which one have you tried and are they easy enough to install and play with.i guess the next step is to hook up some sensors and have a spoken responce.
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Post by Pev » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:08 pm

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Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:08 pm

Hi,

Did a post late last week on getting a sonar sensor working - this is it incase you haven't seen it

http://robosavvy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=153

Feel free to give me a shout if it doesn't make sense or you have questions.

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Hi,

Did a post late last week on getting a sonar sensor working - this is it incase you haven't seen it

http://robosavvy.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=153

Feel free to give me a shout if it doesn't make sense or you have questions.

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Post by subpilot » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:31 pm

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Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:31 pm

I went the Neospeech route. http://robosavvy.com/modules.php?name=F ... opic&t=148

It may be a bit too non-robotic but it's sure easier to understand. I'm going with a VB program to send out voice responses based on sensor inputs received over my Bluetooth serial link.

Pev, you thread Hijacker. I haven't gotten around to the sonar yet but maybe tommorow.
I went the Neospeech route. http://robosavvy.com/modules.php?name=F ... opic&t=148

It may be a bit too non-robotic but it's sure easier to understand. I'm going with a VB program to send out voice responses based on sensor inputs received over my Bluetooth serial link.

Pev, you thread Hijacker. I haven't gotten around to the sonar yet but maybe tommorow.
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Post by Pev » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:49 pm

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Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:49 pm

lol sorry subpilot (he he)
lol sorry subpilot (he he)
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Post by rossoe » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:54 pm

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Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:54 pm

Do you think one of these CMUcam's would be easy to connect in or would it be way too big ?
http://www.active-robots.com/products/a ... ucam.shtml

It'll do image tracking amongst other things !
Do you think one of these CMUcam's would be easy to connect in or would it be way too big ?
http://www.active-robots.com/products/a ... ucam.shtml

It'll do image tracking amongst other things !
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Post by Toukisarchu » Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:38 am

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Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:38 am

If your after something more basic then the RN-1 but better then a RS maybe look into the Bioloid. If i was new to robotics i dont think i would be able to get my $1000 worth of robot action out of the robonova.
If your after something more basic then the RN-1 but better then a RS maybe look into the Bioloid. If i was new to robotics i dont think i would be able to get my $1000 worth of robot action out of the robonova.
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