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Hitec robotics including ROBONOVA humanoid, HSR-8498HB servos, MR C-3024 Controllers and RoboBasic
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Post by Sonic » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:58 pm

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Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:58 pm

Good idea sonic

thank you BillB
Good idea sonic

thank you BillB
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Post by CaptKill4Fun » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:36 am

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Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:36 am

limor wrote:
srobot wrote:I would hate to see one of you "buy" from him only not to get the item.


That's a bit unfair. Give the guy some credit.

Yes, his social mannerisms are a bit skewed and his web sites and choice of names are outlandish but he surely realizes that there's not much to gain by selling fake $20 humanoid robot shoes hence he may be doing this for the community from the goodness of his heart.


In addition, lets not forget one thing. Last year he induced amazing creative comedy from some forum members that were epitomized by the funniest Captain Crunch humanoid videos ever seen on youtube. Worth every green font character that are the hallmark of his postings.


So... Lets first see some pics/videos of this LiPo shoe thingy (once he has filed all the relevant patents). They may have good potential.





8) Hi,


I'm not sure what is wrong with my social mannerisms?

All I've done is post alternative ideas in the forum and then a few of the users turn into piranha and start attcking me and my ideas.

When I try to defend myself here the only response back is more attacks.

Even when I post evidence of fraud ... everything is removed from the public eye and what's left are the lies others tell of the episode.

I don't blame the forum managers for removing the posts of the fraud ... but when they permit others to post lies about me here I feel I have to come on and again defend myself.



limor wrote:
srobot wrote:I would hate to see one of you "buy" from him only not to get the item.


That's a bit unfair. Give the guy some credit.

Yes, his social mannerisms are a bit skewed and his web sites and choice of names are outlandish but he surely realizes that there's not much to gain by selling fake $20 humanoid robot shoes hence he may be doing this for the community from the goodness of his heart.


In addition, lets not forget one thing. Last year he induced amazing creative comedy from some forum members that were epitomized by the funniest Captain Crunch humanoid videos ever seen on youtube. Worth every green font character that are the hallmark of his postings.


So... Lets first see some pics/videos of this LiPo shoe thingy (once he has filed all the relevant patents). They may have good potential.





8) Hi,


I'm not sure what is wrong with my social mannerisms?

All I've done is post alternative ideas in the forum and then a few of the users turn into piranha and start attcking me and my ideas.

When I try to defend myself here the only response back is more attacks.

Even when I post evidence of fraud ... everything is removed from the public eye and what's left are the lies others tell of the episode.

I don't blame the forum managers for removing the posts of the fraud ... but when they permit others to post lies about me here I feel I have to come on and again defend myself.



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Post by CaptKill4Fun » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:25 pm

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Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:25 pm

srobot wrote:Limor, please disable his PM.

He is starting to send me bad stuff, like he has done to others in the past.

Now that he asked for it, you will get CaptKill4Fun's past:

Back in July - September (+/-) 2006, he tried to buy a RoboNova-1 for $600 from a RoboSavvy member, though the deal did not go through because he would not send the PayPal payment until the item was shipped, the other member (which I will not disclose) did not want to send it first, and refused to sell it to him, so the deal failed. CaptKill4Fun said he would sue if he could not get them item. Late one night (about 8 - 10 PM CST) the posts regarding this matter got removed from the site.

He did not do much until he came up with "Opec Grips" in December 2006, which he claimed that Matt Bauer "copied" (Matt came out with his 8 months before him). A big fight happened, with stuff like what is happening here. Matt, Hive, and others got tons of junk in there PMs sent by CaptKill4Fun.

May (+/-) 2007 - Then on his site (brainless), he put up that he was "family friendly", and had projects to do with kids.

Now here we are now.

I would hate to see one of you "buy" from him only not to get the item.

All the best,
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8) Hi,

The admin has full privilages to see all PMs I've sent and received ...

I don't care because I am not sending any PMs to people to antagonize them.

OTOH, what you posted is all lies about me.

You srobot are telling lies.


srobot wrote:Limor, please disable his PM.

He is starting to send me bad stuff, like he has done to others in the past.

Now that he asked for it, you will get CaptKill4Fun's past:

Back in July - September (+/-) 2006, he tried to buy a RoboNova-1 for $600 from a RoboSavvy member, though the deal did not go through because he would not send the PayPal payment until the item was shipped, the other member (which I will not disclose) did not want to send it first, and refused to sell it to him, so the deal failed. CaptKill4Fun said he would sue if he could not get them item. Late one night (about 8 - 10 PM CST) the posts regarding this matter got removed from the site.

He did not do much until he came up with "Opec Grips" in December 2006, which he claimed that Matt Bauer "copied" (Matt came out with his 8 months before him). A big fight happened, with stuff like what is happening here. Matt, Hive, and others got tons of junk in there PMs sent by CaptKill4Fun.

May (+/-) 2007 - Then on his site (brainless), he put up that he was "family friendly", and had projects to do with kids.

Now here we are now.

I would hate to see one of you "buy" from him only not to get the item.

All the best,
--Scotty



8) Hi,

The admin has full privilages to see all PMs I've sent and received ...

I don't care because I am not sending any PMs to people to antagonize them.

OTOH, what you posted is all lies about me.

You srobot are telling lies.


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Post by CaptKill4Fun » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:38 pm

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Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:38 pm

Sonic wrote:@ CaptKill4Fun,

I'm interested in your Robonova boots, have you had any feedback from buyers? Also, I'm going to the next Robogames in the UK and was thinking if you send me a free pair I'll get them up and running and debut them at the event.

ROBOtic'07 UK will be held on Sat. 24th November 2007




8) Hi,

YES! I will gladly send Sonic one pair of the "BigFoot" robot shoes and hopefully in exchange you can send me large color photographs of your RN1 wearing them and a video using them. Along with an honest opinion of their functionality.

I sent you a PM asking for your address so I can send a demo pair.

They may not look perfect because I made a glue mess.

But they are a perfect fit to the RoboNova-1 ... and the design is so simple all I need is the foot print size and shape of almost any other robot to make a pair, or quad or hex for them too.



Complete details can be found here:
http://www.brainless.org/OPEC/BigFoot.htm

Sonic wrote:@ CaptKill4Fun,

I'm interested in your Robonova boots, have you had any feedback from buyers? Also, I'm going to the next Robogames in the UK and was thinking if you send me a free pair I'll get them up and running and debut them at the event.

ROBOtic'07 UK will be held on Sat. 24th November 2007




8) Hi,

YES! I will gladly send Sonic one pair of the "BigFoot" robot shoes and hopefully in exchange you can send me large color photographs of your RN1 wearing them and a video using them. Along with an honest opinion of their functionality.

I sent you a PM asking for your address so I can send a demo pair.

They may not look perfect because I made a glue mess.

But they are a perfect fit to the RoboNova-1 ... and the design is so simple all I need is the foot print size and shape of almost any other robot to make a pair, or quad or hex for them too.



Complete details can be found here:
http://www.brainless.org/OPEC/BigFoot.htm

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Post by hivemind » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:38 pm

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Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:38 pm

CapnCrunch4Fun wrote:
8) Hi,

I'm not sure what is wrong with my social mannerisms?

All I've done is post alternative ideas in the forum and then a few of the users turn into piranha and start attcking me and my ideas.

When I try to defend myself here the only response back is more attacks.


This is a forum, a place where people can post ideas, and others will comment and criticize. It seems to me that you are spending more time defending your ideas then actually working on them or trying to show their benefits - perhaps you should work on listening more to make your idea the best it can be. Furthermore, perhaps you should demonstrate your product before trying to sell it - how can you plan to sell something with no examples of how it works?

I also don't understand how attacking other forum members (specifically Scotty) and calling them liars helps. - especially if you are only defending yourself... Perhaps this is one of those skewed social mannerisms? In any case, if you are trying to sell a product, I think you should be more concerned in building trust then starting an argument over the internet - as that surely will not sell products.

So since the topic seems to have wandered off a bit, I will add my own analysis of your LiPo feet.

Lets start with with positive:
    Having LiPos in the robot adds a much needed battery life.
    It lowers the center of gravity to make the robot more stable.
    They remain the same xy-size (footprint).
    The feet are cheap.


And the not so positive (imo):
    By having LiPos in the feet, the balance can be thrown far off when trying to walk.
    The extra weight at the end of the leg can cause extra stress to all of the leg servos
    There must be another extra wire coming up from the foot to the hip section of the robot
    Added height in the foot can cause the robot to have less balance, and also will cause the foot rotation angle to be offset
    By having such a weight in the foot, they actually make the robot less humanoid than before (by definition...as humans don't have heavy feet nor do we store excessive energy in them)

Of course things could be added to either list, but I believe that what I have up here is a reasonably fair assessment. So my conclusion (as I have already stated) would be that since these feet make the robot less humanoid, ergo I would not put them on my own robot. I have seen other robots with LiPos in their feet, and imo they did not work as well because it is a lot harder to move then entire leg with the LiPo's weight in the foot.

CaptKil4Fun wrote:If you think that a RoboNova-1 is like a live person that is a nice fantasy, but the reality is; a functional robot is worth a hell of a lot more than a fantasy.


Hmm, I don't think that this means we shouldn't try to get our humanoid robots as humanlike as possible though... While I agree that the RN-1 is far from being a human, it can be 'like' one in the sense that weight is distributed similarly, it moves in a similar fashion and can interact with its environment much in the same way people do.

-Hive
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8) Hi,

I'm not sure what is wrong with my social mannerisms?

All I've done is post alternative ideas in the forum and then a few of the users turn into piranha and start attcking me and my ideas.

When I try to defend myself here the only response back is more attacks.


This is a forum, a place where people can post ideas, and others will comment and criticize. It seems to me that you are spending more time defending your ideas then actually working on them or trying to show their benefits - perhaps you should work on listening more to make your idea the best it can be. Furthermore, perhaps you should demonstrate your product before trying to sell it - how can you plan to sell something with no examples of how it works?

I also don't understand how attacking other forum members (specifically Scotty) and calling them liars helps. - especially if you are only defending yourself... Perhaps this is one of those skewed social mannerisms? In any case, if you are trying to sell a product, I think you should be more concerned in building trust then starting an argument over the internet - as that surely will not sell products.

So since the topic seems to have wandered off a bit, I will add my own analysis of your LiPo feet.

Lets start with with positive:
    Having LiPos in the robot adds a much needed battery life.
    It lowers the center of gravity to make the robot more stable.
    They remain the same xy-size (footprint).
    The feet are cheap.


And the not so positive (imo):
    By having LiPos in the feet, the balance can be thrown far off when trying to walk.
    The extra weight at the end of the leg can cause extra stress to all of the leg servos
    There must be another extra wire coming up from the foot to the hip section of the robot
    Added height in the foot can cause the robot to have less balance, and also will cause the foot rotation angle to be offset
    By having such a weight in the foot, they actually make the robot less humanoid than before (by definition...as humans don't have heavy feet nor do we store excessive energy in them)

Of course things could be added to either list, but I believe that what I have up here is a reasonably fair assessment. So my conclusion (as I have already stated) would be that since these feet make the robot less humanoid, ergo I would not put them on my own robot. I have seen other robots with LiPos in their feet, and imo they did not work as well because it is a lot harder to move then entire leg with the LiPo's weight in the foot.

CaptKil4Fun wrote:If you think that a RoboNova-1 is like a live person that is a nice fantasy, but the reality is; a functional robot is worth a hell of a lot more than a fantasy.


Hmm, I don't think that this means we shouldn't try to get our humanoid robots as humanlike as possible though... While I agree that the RN-1 is far from being a human, it can be 'like' one in the sense that weight is distributed similarly, it moves in a similar fashion and can interact with its environment much in the same way people do.

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Post by Humanoido » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:54 am

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Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:54 am

I'd like to see more information, details, photos, and video about this neat product idea. Congratulations! Exactly when will shipping commence?

How will this affect the stock RN moves, walking, and other motions, and with a gyro in place? Will these be shipped international along with optional LIPOs?

humanoido
I'd like to see more information, details, photos, and video about this neat product idea. Congratulations! Exactly when will shipping commence?

How will this affect the stock RN moves, walking, and other motions, and with a gyro in place? Will these be shipped international along with optional LIPOs?

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Post by CaptKill4Fun » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:17 am

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Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:17 am

Humanoido wrote:I'd like to see more information, details, photos, and video about this neat product idea. Congratulations! Exactly when will shipping commence?

How will this affect the stock RN moves, walking, and other motions, and with a gyro in place? Will these be shipped international along with optional LIPOs?

humanoido



8) Hi,

If you want a kit, send me the money ... I just sent one kit to the UK 1st class mail for and additional $3.60. That's a total charge of $28.60 for a BigFoot Kit + Spacers + S&H.

1st class mailing in the USA is FREE.

I have't sent any kits to Europe or Asia yet.

Yes you can also send payment via PayPal to wperko@brainless.org but you must add $2 PayPal Handling Charges ...

Or, wait minimum 10 day's before I ship and send a personal check or postal money order. I have to have the bank clear checks and MOs.

Walt Perko
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Hayward, CA. 94541



Complete details can be found here:
http://www.brainless.org/OPEC/BigFoot.htm

Humanoido wrote:I'd like to see more information, details, photos, and video about this neat product idea. Congratulations! Exactly when will shipping commence?

How will this affect the stock RN moves, walking, and other motions, and with a gyro in place? Will these be shipped international along with optional LIPOs?

humanoido



8) Hi,

If you want a kit, send me the money ... I just sent one kit to the UK 1st class mail for and additional $3.60. That's a total charge of $28.60 for a BigFoot Kit + Spacers + S&H.

1st class mailing in the USA is FREE.

I have't sent any kits to Europe or Asia yet.

Yes you can also send payment via PayPal to wperko@brainless.org but you must add $2 PayPal Handling Charges ...

Or, wait minimum 10 day's before I ship and send a personal check or postal money order. I have to have the bank clear checks and MOs.

Walt Perko
1638 E Street #16
Hayward, CA. 94541



Complete details can be found here:
http://www.brainless.org/OPEC/BigFoot.htm

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Post by Humanoido » Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:08 am

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Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:08 am

That covers the money part. We still need to see a
video and more information before making any
decisions. Please let us know when you have more
info and a vid posted. Some posts by happy
customers would also be a plus.

humanoido
That covers the money part. We still need to see a
video and more information before making any
decisions. Please let us know when you have more
info and a vid posted. Some posts by happy
customers would also be a plus.

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Post by Robo1 » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:13 pm

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Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:13 pm

Would make life easier if you add pictures of you products on a RN. This goes for is product as well as your other ones (servo bracket back to back).

Bren
Would make life easier if you add pictures of you products on a RN. This goes for is product as well as your other ones (servo bracket back to back).

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Post by Sonic » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:36 pm

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Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:36 pm

First picture of New (reebok) :lol: boots. First of all I would like to thank Captkill4fun for sending me a pair of the boots
http://robosavvy.com/Builders/Sonic/Pic ... 5b1%5d.jpg
Was sent a full set of shoes plus spacers, pictures shows just a mock up of the boots with out the 2mm spacers. Not glued them together as I am waiting for the battery so I can get the right dimensions. I'm in the process of ordering a 6V converter and a 7.2V LiPo cell battery. (http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html)
First picture of New (reebok) :lol: boots. First of all I would like to thank Captkill4fun for sending me a pair of the boots
http://robosavvy.com/Builders/Sonic/Pic ... 5b1%5d.jpg
Was sent a full set of shoes plus spacers, pictures shows just a mock up of the boots with out the 2mm spacers. Not glued them together as I am waiting for the battery so I can get the right dimensions. I'm in the process of ordering a 6V converter and a 7.2V LiPo cell battery. (http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html)
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Post by limor » Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:46 am

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Mon Sep 24, 2007 2:46 am

Sonic wrote:I'm in the process of ordering a 6V converter and a 7.2V LiPo cell battery. (http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html)

Check out http://robosavvy.com/store/index.php/cPath/31
I think 2 of the 1000mah batteries could fit into one boot
Sonic wrote:I'm in the process of ordering a 6V converter and a 7.2V LiPo cell battery. (http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html)

Check out http://robosavvy.com/store/index.php/cPath/31
I think 2 of the 1000mah batteries could fit into one boot
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Post by CaptKill4Fun » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:27 am

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Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:27 am

limor wrote:
Sonic wrote:I'm in the process of ordering a 6V converter and a 7.2V LiPo cell battery. (http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html)

Check out http://robosavvy.com/store/index.php/cPath/31
I think 2 of the 1000mah batteries could fit into one boot



8) Hi,

Limor I saw that your larger 2000mAh single cell LiPos are 5.8mm x 54mm x 54mm .... I can make the "BigFoot" spacing even wider ... easily give 55mm spacing between the side rails ... and I think there'd still be enough surface for 5-minute epoxy to hold them onto the bottoms of the RoboNova-1's ...

If somebody wants to order a set for testing with the bigger batteries ... just ask and I'll cut a set special. But you still have to buy them.

The vertical spacing seems perfect for these cells. Almost anything ... even a piece of paper can wedge in to hold the batteries from slipping around ... or maybe a simple rubber binder wrapped around the cell before it's pressed into position?

I like to keep things like this as simple as I can ...



Complete details can be found here:
http://www.brainless.org/OPEC/BigFoot.htm

limor wrote:
Sonic wrote:I'm in the process of ordering a 6V converter and a 7.2V LiPo cell battery. (http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi/mpi-21.html)

Check out http://robosavvy.com/store/index.php/cPath/31
I think 2 of the 1000mah batteries could fit into one boot



8) Hi,

Limor I saw that your larger 2000mAh single cell LiPos are 5.8mm x 54mm x 54mm .... I can make the "BigFoot" spacing even wider ... easily give 55mm spacing between the side rails ... and I think there'd still be enough surface for 5-minute epoxy to hold them onto the bottoms of the RoboNova-1's ...

If somebody wants to order a set for testing with the bigger batteries ... just ask and I'll cut a set special. But you still have to buy them.

The vertical spacing seems perfect for these cells. Almost anything ... even a piece of paper can wedge in to hold the batteries from slipping around ... or maybe a simple rubber binder wrapped around the cell before it's pressed into position?

I like to keep things like this as simple as I can ...



Complete details can be found here:
http://www.brainless.org/OPEC/BigFoot.htm

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