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Vision thru wireless webcam, possible?

Post by evaderdjo » Tue May 27, 2008 3:54 am

Post by evaderdjo
Tue May 27, 2008 3:54 am

Would it be possible to attach a wireless video camera to the robot, that could act as a webcam? I've seen a few wireless webcams, but they are very expensive, and big. There are some cheaper security cameras, or pinhole cameras, but they normally transmit to a receiver that outputs in RCA format, which some webcam software programs have issues wth (Window Live Messenger, Yahoo, etc.)

I've also seen RCA to USB adapters which could convert the RCA output from the security camera receiver to USB format. But would the webcam software recognize it?

If anyone has prior experience on how to get wireless vision that can be recognized as a webcam (key point), I would love to hear how it can be done.
Would it be possible to attach a wireless video camera to the robot, that could act as a webcam? I've seen a few wireless webcams, but they are very expensive, and big. There are some cheaper security cameras, or pinhole cameras, but they normally transmit to a receiver that outputs in RCA format, which some webcam software programs have issues wth (Window Live Messenger, Yahoo, etc.)

I've also seen RCA to USB adapters which could convert the RCA output from the security camera receiver to USB format. But would the webcam software recognize it?

If anyone has prior experience on how to get wireless vision that can be recognized as a webcam (key point), I would love to hear how it can be done.
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Post by Ray » Wed May 28, 2008 1:13 pm

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Wed May 28, 2008 1:13 pm

Hi, I know Surveyor SRV-1 Blackfin Camera is one of the chose,
which use our wireless router as the receiving tool to PC software

http://www.surveyor.com/SRV.html

But I have no time to analyzer, please report if you have further finding. :D
Hi, I know Surveyor SRV-1 Blackfin Camera is one of the chose,
which use our wireless router as the receiving tool to PC software

http://www.surveyor.com/SRV.html

But I have no time to analyzer, please report if you have further finding. :D
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Post by Humanoido » Thu May 29, 2008 4:06 am

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Thu May 29, 2008 4:06 am

This is just an idea - there are now numerous cell phones with built in cameras and connectivity to the internet. Given their extremely small size, it sounds like great potential for robotics, and maybe exactly what you're looking for. I have one of these small cameras, about the size of a sewing thimble, which was designed to plug into a tiny slot on the cell phone. It's about the size of Robonova's head, and would probably fit inside with the tiny case removed.

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This is just an idea - there are now numerous cell phones with built in cameras and connectivity to the internet. Given their extremely small size, it sounds like great potential for robotics, and maybe exactly what you're looking for. I have one of these small cameras, about the size of a sewing thimble, which was designed to plug into a tiny slot on the cell phone. It's about the size of Robonova's head, and would probably fit inside with the tiny case removed.

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Post by Ray » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:48 pm

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Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:48 pm

Hi Humanoido,

Can you give me some infomation of these small cameras ?

Ray.
Hi Humanoido,

Can you give me some infomation of these small cameras ?

Ray.
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Post by engineer » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:50 pm

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Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:50 pm

could you also work in bluetooth compatability? so that we could record rn-1's point of view, say during a wrestling match at the games? thnx john
could you also work in bluetooth compatability? so that we could record rn-1's point of view, say during a wrestling match at the games? thnx john
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Post by SK » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:14 am

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:14 am

Humanoido wrote:This is just an idea - there are now numerous cell phones with built in cameras and connectivity to the internet.

The RoboCup team of the University of Manitoba is even using a whole cell phone as the head for their customized Bioloids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmzeAd6S7rk
Humanoido wrote:This is just an idea - there are now numerous cell phones with built in cameras and connectivity to the internet.

The RoboCup team of the University of Manitoba is even using a whole cell phone as the head for their customized Bioloids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmzeAd6S7rk
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Post by StuartL » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:47 am

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:47 am

This is a very popular solution for RoboCup. A large number of teams in RoboGames 2007 were using mobile/cellular phones for the brains and video processing of their robots. I suspect the same will be true this year.
This is a very popular solution for RoboCup. A large number of teams in RoboGames 2007 were using mobile/cellular phones for the brains and video processing of their robots. I suspect the same will be true this year.
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Post by SK » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:10 pm

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:10 pm

Well that´s not really the case, most teams use one of the following:
-Pocket PC with Webcams/USB-cameras
-PC104 boards or similar with Webcams/USB-cameras
-Microcontrollers with CMUCAMs/self-built cameras

The U of M humanoid robot is the only one that comes to my mind with a actual cell phone head/brains. Even if I forgot about one or two others this solution isn´t popular compared to the huge number of teams using the stuff described above.
Well that´s not really the case, most teams use one of the following:
-Pocket PC with Webcams/USB-cameras
-PC104 boards or similar with Webcams/USB-cameras
-Microcontrollers with CMUCAMs/self-built cameras

The U of M humanoid robot is the only one that comes to my mind with a actual cell phone head/brains. Even if I forgot about one or two others this solution isn´t popular compared to the huge number of teams using the stuff described above.
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Post by limor » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:35 pm

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:35 pm

have a look at the wireless analog cameras available on Sparkfun for $49. (has link to video from camera strapped on to RC helicopter)
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/produc ... cts_id=156
you can plug the receiver to your PC video card.

or on ebay.co.uk in Europe.
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search. ... ess+camera
have a look at the wireless analog cameras available on Sparkfun for $49. (has link to video from camera strapped on to RC helicopter)
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/produc ... cts_id=156
you can plug the receiver to your PC video card.

or on ebay.co.uk in Europe.
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search. ... ess+camera
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Post by StuartL » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:22 pm

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Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:22 pm

SK wrote:The U of M humanoid robot is the only one that comes to my mind with a actual cell phone head/brains. Even if I forgot about one or two others this solution isn´t popular compared to the huge number of teams using the stuff described above.


There were three teams at RoboGames 2007 using smart-phones, two of which were smart-phone-PDA-iPaq things.

I'll concede that in the grand scheme of the number of teams entering that it's not exactly an overwhelmingly popular (or flexible, or fast) solution but it's cheap and easy to develop for.
SK wrote:The U of M humanoid robot is the only one that comes to my mind with a actual cell phone head/brains. Even if I forgot about one or two others this solution isn´t popular compared to the huge number of teams using the stuff described above.


There were three teams at RoboGames 2007 using smart-phones, two of which were smart-phone-PDA-iPaq things.

I'll concede that in the grand scheme of the number of teams entering that it's not exactly an overwhelmingly popular (or flexible, or fast) solution but it's cheap and easy to develop for.
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Post by evaderdjo » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:47 am

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Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:47 am

These are all great suggestions for the wireless video part, but getting Yahoo or Messenger to recognize video input from an RCA input is the key. Do any of these solutions allow for Yahoo or Messenger to recognize the input as a webcam?
These are all great suggestions for the wireless video part, but getting Yahoo or Messenger to recognize video input from an RCA input is the key. Do any of these solutions allow for Yahoo or Messenger to recognize the input as a webcam?
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Post by SK » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:06 pm

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Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:06 pm

StuartL wrote:There were three teams at RoboGames 2007 using smart-phones, two of which were smart-phone-PDA-iPaq things.

Mea culpa, as you answered to my RoboCup-related post, I automatically read "RoboGames 2007" as "RoboCup 2007", which is of course a different thing. So you´re of course right, sorry again.
StuartL wrote:There were three teams at RoboGames 2007 using smart-phones, two of which were smart-phone-PDA-iPaq things.

Mea culpa, as you answered to my RoboCup-related post, I automatically read "RoboGames 2007" as "RoboCup 2007", which is of course a different thing. So you´re of course right, sorry again.
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Post by limor » Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:03 pm

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Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:03 pm

evaderdjo wrote:These are all great suggestions for the wireless video part, but getting Yahoo or Messenger to recognize video input from an RCA input is the key. Do any of these solutions allow for Yahoo or Messenger to recognize the input as a webcam?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2242539_video-c ... cheap.html
evaderdjo wrote:These are all great suggestions for the wireless video part, but getting Yahoo or Messenger to recognize video input from an RCA input is the key. Do any of these solutions allow for Yahoo or Messenger to recognize the input as a webcam?

http://www.ehow.com/how_2242539_video-c ... cheap.html
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Post by RobotServicesGroup » Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:39 pm

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Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:39 pm

We were able to use our wireless camera as a webcam without much trouble using video conferencing software called ooVoo. Maybe the problem is with Messenger and Yahoo, not your camera.
We were able to use our wireless camera as a webcam without much trouble using video conferencing software called ooVoo. Maybe the problem is with Messenger and Yahoo, not your camera.
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