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Robonova-1 with POB-EYE cam

Hitec robotics including ROBONOVA humanoid, HSR-8498HB servos, MR C-3024 Controllers and RoboBasic
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Post by POB-Forum » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:35 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:35 pm

You can store bitmaps in your ram as I understand and call up some pictures as your program goes. I wonder if you are able to use the joystick IN your programs because then you can create a GUI for your program!


In fact the Bitmap are compiled in your program, so they don't take any place in RAM. The graphic engine is like a gameboyadvance (without the color). And yes, the joystick is to manage a graphic interface like a PDA. If you want the souce code in C langage of the POB-BOT (http://www.pob-technology.com/download/pob-video8.wmv).

the source code :http://www.pob-technology.com/download/SOURCE/pobbot_demo_c.zip

What about adding a 21" LCD And a mouse and keyboard?

Why not ? It's a good idea !!
You can store bitmaps in your ram as I understand and call up some pictures as your program goes. I wonder if you are able to use the joystick IN your programs because then you can create a GUI for your program!


In fact the Bitmap are compiled in your program, so they don't take any place in RAM. The graphic engine is like a gameboyadvance (without the color). And yes, the joystick is to manage a graphic interface like a PDA. If you want the souce code in C langage of the POB-BOT (http://www.pob-technology.com/download/pob-video8.wmv).

the source code :http://www.pob-technology.com/download/SOURCE/pobbot_demo_c.zip

What about adding a 21" LCD And a mouse and keyboard?

Why not ? It's a good idea !!
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Post by robodude666 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:53 pm

Ahh, thats cool! I thought that those 3 icons are part of like the POB firmware or something. The first one ran the main function that was loaded on the robot, second icon just was a play option which shows what the robot sees and third was to move around the servos to reset them or something. I didn't know that was a custom GUI made for the demo program! And looking at this code, it is really simple to make something for this bot! I am really amazed!! A few days ago, I looked for some example CMUcam and I was like "What the hell is this?!" because I didn't understand any of the language it used. Was some crazy shit.

I so have to get me one of these when I get the money.
Ahh, thats cool! I thought that those 3 icons are part of like the POB firmware or something. The first one ran the main function that was loaded on the robot, second icon just was a play option which shows what the robot sees and third was to move around the servos to reset them or something. I didn't know that was a custom GUI made for the demo program! And looking at this code, it is really simple to make something for this bot! I am really amazed!! A few days ago, I looked for some example CMUcam and I was like "What the hell is this?!" because I didn't understand any of the language it used. Was some crazy shit.

I so have to get me one of these when I get the money.
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Post by POB-Forum » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:19 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:19 pm

Do you see all of our video in our download section
http://www.pob-technology.com/download.html

if you click on "voir la video" you will see our video. If you can't find it, I can add the links in a new post.

Sorry if our web site is in french, the english version is on the way ... but all documentations and source code are translate in english.
Do you see all of our video in our download section
http://www.pob-technology.com/download.html

if you click on "voir la video" you will see our video. If you can't find it, I can add the links in a new post.

Sorry if our web site is in french, the english version is on the way ... but all documentations and source code are translate in english.
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Look at : http://www.pob-technology.com/download/pob-video9.wmv
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Post by Pev » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:19 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:19 pm

Wowo - I have to say whether you like the head or not the capability that seems to be present is impressive. I have played with the CMU CAM and its cool but i do like the look of the POD unit.

I am still a strong believer that robotics at all levels is about autonomous action so anything that adds further features to the RN1 to meet that goal is great in my mind.

10 out of 10 guys

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Wowo - I have to say whether you like the head or not the capability that seems to be present is impressive. I have played with the CMU CAM and its cool but i do like the look of the POD unit.

I am still a strong believer that robotics at all levels is about autonomous action so anything that adds further features to the RN1 to meet that goal is great in my mind.

10 out of 10 guys

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Post by robodude666 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:28 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:28 pm

Yup, already checked out every page of the website. Good thing I have my googlebar :) It has a translator function, woohoo!!

Pev, I am guessing by "!0 out of 10 guys" you ment "10 out of 10"?

I think I must of watched every video at least 5 times now!
Yup, already checked out every page of the website. Good thing I have my googlebar :) It has a translator function, woohoo!!

Pev, I am guessing by "!0 out of 10 guys" you ment "10 out of 10"?

I think I must of watched every video at least 5 times now!
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Post by Pev » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:29 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:29 pm

robodude666 wrote:Yup, already checked out every page of the website. Good thing I have my googlebar :) It has a translator function, woohoo!!

Pev, I am guessing by "!0 out of 10 guys" you ment "10 out of 10"?

I think I must of watched every video at least 5 times now!


OOOPS lol I'll fix that
robodude666 wrote:Yup, already checked out every page of the website. Good thing I have my googlebar :) It has a translator function, woohoo!!

Pev, I am guessing by "!0 out of 10 guys" you ment "10 out of 10"?

I think I must of watched every video at least 5 times now!


OOOPS lol I'll fix that
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Post by POB-Forum » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:39 pm

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10 out of 10 guys


Thank you !! It's a lot of work !! Examples, documentations !! It take a lot of time. And your congratulations are a good thing for the POB's Team.
10 out of 10 guys


Thank you !! It's a lot of work !! Examples, documentations !! It take a lot of time. And your congratulations are a good thing for the POB's Team.
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Post by Joerg » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:43 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:43 pm

robodude666 wrote:Also, can you please please pretty please post a picture of the back? I really wanna see how it looks!


just took a pic for you:

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The hooks are for mounting a smaller prototype PCB if somebody wants. The flatcable is used here for the LCD only (it's also possible to hide it a little bit better than here).

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robodude666 wrote:Also, can you please please pretty please post a picture of the back? I really wanna see how it looks!


just took a pic for you:

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The hooks are for mounting a smaller prototype PCB if somebody wants. The flatcable is used here for the LCD only (it's also possible to hide it a little bit better than here).

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Post by robodude666 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:13 pm

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Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:13 pm

Thank you :) I am not totally happy. So the RN-1 uses a different board than the one POB offers?
Thank you :) I am not totally happy. So the RN-1 uses a different board than the one POB offers?
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Post by Joerg » Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:44 pm

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robodude666 wrote:So the RN-1 uses a different board than the one POB offers?

There are 3 components in the moment, Cam, LCD and Protoboard. For the Robonova you can use the Cam and if you want the LCD.
No prototyping board is required for normal operation.

There is a small (hidden) board with a MAX232 (level-shifter) to connect the 2 serial port (POB-EYE and Robonova). The programm in the Robonova is a slave of the POB-EYE. The POB-EYE sends command like :turn on the left, move forward....

The original prototyping board has motor- and servo drivers and this is not needed for the Robonova. The joystick can replaced with the infrared remote from the Robonova. We will make the protocol more stable to add this feature for the user interface.

You can use, if you want - not necessary - a smaller Protoboard (or cutted original one) for your own extensions.
For example, on the Bremen fair sombody asked for the possibility to log data from the cam to an extended memory. Such things are possible with an extra board.

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robodude666 wrote:So the RN-1 uses a different board than the one POB offers?

There are 3 components in the moment, Cam, LCD and Protoboard. For the Robonova you can use the Cam and if you want the LCD.
No prototyping board is required for normal operation.

There is a small (hidden) board with a MAX232 (level-shifter) to connect the 2 serial port (POB-EYE and Robonova). The programm in the Robonova is a slave of the POB-EYE. The POB-EYE sends command like :turn on the left, move forward....

The original prototyping board has motor- and servo drivers and this is not needed for the Robonova. The joystick can replaced with the infrared remote from the Robonova. We will make the protocol more stable to add this feature for the user interface.

You can use, if you want - not necessary - a smaller Protoboard (or cutted original one) for your own extensions.
For example, on the Bremen fair sombody asked for the possibility to log data from the cam to an extended memory. Such things are possible with an extra board.

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Post by robodude666 » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:54 am

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Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:54 am

So, you don't need the Protoboard in order for the LCD or EYE to work? You can just have the EYE and LCD? I read that it has I2C. Could I be able to connect the LCD and EYE to an OOPIC board? and have the OOPIC get data from the EYE, control servos based on the data and also output onto the LCD? If it can do that, then snap! I want one of these!!
So, you don't need the Protoboard in order for the LCD or EYE to work? You can just have the EYE and LCD? I read that it has I2C. Could I be able to connect the LCD and EYE to an OOPIC board? and have the OOPIC get data from the EYE, control servos based on the data and also output onto the LCD? If it can do that, then snap! I want one of these!!
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Post by Joerg » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:58 am

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robodude666 wrote:So, you don't need the Protoboard in order for the LCD or EYE to work?

No you don't need it. All the intelligence is in the cam.

You can just have the EYE and LCD?

The LCD is useful, because you can see what the cam sees and make some debug outputs.

I read that it has I2C. Could I be able to connect the LCD and EYE to an OOPIC board? and have the OOPIC get data from the EYE, control servos based on the data and also output onto the LCD? If it can do that, then snap! I want one of these!!

The cam has 3 interfaces: parallel, RS232 and I2C. But I2C is only the master mode possible. The same with the OOPIC (as far as I know), that means you can't connect both modules via I2C.
But RS232 should also be possible, and if you add 2 little ICs (74HC138+74HC245) for address decoding you could also use the very fast parallel interface.

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robodude666 wrote:So, you don't need the Protoboard in order for the LCD or EYE to work?

No you don't need it. All the intelligence is in the cam.

You can just have the EYE and LCD?

The LCD is useful, because you can see what the cam sees and make some debug outputs.

I read that it has I2C. Could I be able to connect the LCD and EYE to an OOPIC board? and have the OOPIC get data from the EYE, control servos based on the data and also output onto the LCD? If it can do that, then snap! I want one of these!!

The cam has 3 interfaces: parallel, RS232 and I2C. But I2C is only the master mode possible. The same with the OOPIC (as far as I know), that means you can't connect both modules via I2C.
But RS232 should also be possible, and if you add 2 little ICs (74HC138+74HC245) for address decoding you could also use the very fast parallel interface.

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@ $500 it's a little pricey, but very brainy 4 the RN-1

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Post by POB-Forum » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:04 am

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Hi,

I want one ... but not sure I can spend that much money (about US$500) for one of my RoboNova-1's ...


US$500 is a too much. At this time, we don't know the final price, but trust me, it will be a correct price.

Do you have some pictures about your work ?


About our web site, we hope next week the english version will be online. But If you need documentations, or source code, pictures, I'll be happy to give it to you.
Hi,

I want one ... but not sure I can spend that much money (about US$500) for one of my RoboNova-1's ...


US$500 is a too much. At this time, we don't know the final price, but trust me, it will be a correct price.

Do you have some pictures about your work ?


About our web site, we hope next week the english version will be online. But If you need documentations, or source code, pictures, I'll be happy to give it to you.
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Post by CaptKill4Fun » Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:49 pm

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