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some questions before buy

Bioloid robot kit from Korean company Robotis; CM5 controller block, AX12 servos..
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some questions before buy

Post by Taiguen » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:25 pm

Post by Taiguen
Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:25 pm

Hi every one,

my first post : it is not about a problem ... cause i don't have bought the bioloid now.
I think i'll get the comprehensive kit.

I have some questions. That would be great from you if you could give me precision:

Is their any kind of debug mode for the code. What I would like is to use things like print "abc"... so i can see on my computer (in realtime) if the bot behave as i expected (example: print "arm move#2 launched")
Or can we write some kind of log file?

I read about a camera and color recognition in a previous thread (see Bioloid Vision Module). Is it available now? That interests me a lot :)

I would like to make 2 robots so they could interact. I guess the comprehensive kit is not enougth alone (need 2 CM-5?) How many servo's does the robot (the humanoid one) requires? (this to see if I could make something with the remaining parts)
I've seen some spare parts available on this site. If I'm not mistaken, CM-5, servos and 'body' parts are available for this bioloid, am I?

Finally, i've read the bioloid has got some piezo elctric sound. So we can make him talk like D2R2 ? Or more elaborated sound?

Thanks for your time,
Taiguen
Hi every one,

my first post : it is not about a problem ... cause i don't have bought the bioloid now.
I think i'll get the comprehensive kit.

I have some questions. That would be great from you if you could give me precision:

Is their any kind of debug mode for the code. What I would like is to use things like print "abc"... so i can see on my computer (in realtime) if the bot behave as i expected (example: print "arm move#2 launched")
Or can we write some kind of log file?

I read about a camera and color recognition in a previous thread (see Bioloid Vision Module). Is it available now? That interests me a lot :)

I would like to make 2 robots so they could interact. I guess the comprehensive kit is not enougth alone (need 2 CM-5?) How many servo's does the robot (the humanoid one) requires? (this to see if I could make something with the remaining parts)
I've seen some spare parts available on this site. If I'm not mistaken, CM-5, servos and 'body' parts are available for this bioloid, am I?

Finally, i've read the bioloid has got some piezo elctric sound. So we can make him talk like D2R2 ? Or more elaborated sound?

Thanks for your time,
Taiguen
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Post by jerome » Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:15 pm

Post by jerome
Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:15 pm

Is their any kind of debug mode for the code. What I would like is to use things like print "abc"... so i can see on my computer (in realtime) if the bot behave as i expected (example: print "arm move#2 launched")
Or can we write some kind of log file?


If you program in C, you have full control. The CPU is an ATmega128 with a UART connected to the Bioloid bus, and the other to the serial connector to the PC.
If you use the provided "programming" environment, I think you can output things to the PC, but that should be confirmed.

I would like to make 2 robots so they could interact. I guess the comprehensive kit is not enougth alone (need 2 CM-5?) How many servo's does the robot (the humanoid one) requires? (this to see if I could make something with the remaining parts)


The humanoid uses the 18 provided servos. They are enough spare parts to make two less complex robots. Of course you need another CM-5. An option would be to buy a beginner's kit in addition.

Finally, i've read the bioloid has got some piezo elctric sound. So we can make him talk like D2R2 ? Or more elaborated sound?


The AX-S1 can only output tones. You can download the full manual for the AX-S1 module on Bioloid's website.

Jerome.
Is their any kind of debug mode for the code. What I would like is to use things like print "abc"... so i can see on my computer (in realtime) if the bot behave as i expected (example: print "arm move#2 launched")
Or can we write some kind of log file?


If you program in C, you have full control. The CPU is an ATmega128 with a UART connected to the Bioloid bus, and the other to the serial connector to the PC.
If you use the provided "programming" environment, I think you can output things to the PC, but that should be confirmed.

I would like to make 2 robots so they could interact. I guess the comprehensive kit is not enougth alone (need 2 CM-5?) How many servo's does the robot (the humanoid one) requires? (this to see if I could make something with the remaining parts)


The humanoid uses the 18 provided servos. They are enough spare parts to make two less complex robots. Of course you need another CM-5. An option would be to buy a beginner's kit in addition.

Finally, i've read the bioloid has got some piezo elctric sound. So we can make him talk like D2R2 ? Or more elaborated sound?


The AX-S1 can only output tones. You can download the full manual for the AX-S1 module on Bioloid's website.

Jerome.
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Post by siempre.aprendiendo » Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:38 pm

Post by siempre.aprendiendo
Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:38 pm

jerome wrote:
Is their any kind of debug mode for the code. What I would like is to use things like print "abc"... so i can see on my computer (in realtime) if the bot behave as i expected (example: print "arm move#2 launched")
Or can we write some kind of log file?


If you program in C, you have full control. The CPU is an ATmega128 with a UART connected to the Bioloid bus, and the other to the serial connector to the PC.
If you use the provided "programming" environment, I think you can output things to the PC, but that should be confirmed.

I would like to make 2 robots so they could interact. I guess the comprehensive kit is not enougth alone (need 2 CM-5?) How many servo's does the robot (the humanoid one) requires? (this to see if I could make something with the remaining parts)


The humanoid uses the 18 provided servos. They are enough spare parts to make two less complex robots. Of course you need another CM-5. An option would be to buy a beginner's kit in addition.

Finally, i've read the bioloid has got some piezo elctric sound. So we can make him talk like D2R2 ? Or more elaborated sound?


The AX-S1 can only output tones. You can download the full manual for the AX-S1 module on Bioloid's website.

Jerome.


Well... you have full control from c if you buy the expert set (about 3.500$)
which includes ALL the required information and APIs,

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1644
jerome wrote:
Is their any kind of debug mode for the code. What I would like is to use things like print "abc"... so i can see on my computer (in realtime) if the bot behave as i expected (example: print "arm move#2 launched")
Or can we write some kind of log file?


If you program in C, you have full control. The CPU is an ATmega128 with a UART connected to the Bioloid bus, and the other to the serial connector to the PC.
If you use the provided "programming" environment, I think you can output things to the PC, but that should be confirmed.

I would like to make 2 robots so they could interact. I guess the comprehensive kit is not enougth alone (need 2 CM-5?) How many servo's does the robot (the humanoid one) requires? (this to see if I could make something with the remaining parts)


The humanoid uses the 18 provided servos. They are enough spare parts to make two less complex robots. Of course you need another CM-5. An option would be to buy a beginner's kit in addition.

Finally, i've read the bioloid has got some piezo elctric sound. So we can make him talk like D2R2 ? Or more elaborated sound?


The AX-S1 can only output tones. You can download the full manual for the AX-S1 module on Bioloid's website.

Jerome.


Well... you have full control from c if you buy the expert set (about 3.500$)
which includes ALL the required information and APIs,

http://robosavvy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1644
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Post by jerome » Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:00 pm

Post by jerome
Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:00 pm

You have full control of the CPU, and all specs :)
That's not too bad.
For the battery charging problem, I flash my app in the motion SW pages area, so that I can still charge the battery by booting in Robotis firmware.
You have full control of the CPU, and all specs :)
That's not too bad.
For the battery charging problem, I flash my app in the motion SW pages area, so that I can still charge the battery by booting in Robotis firmware.
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Post by siempre.aprendiendo » Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:31 pm

Post by siempre.aprendiendo
Fri Oct 26, 2007 9:31 pm

jerome wrote:You have full control of the CPU, and all specs :)
That's not too bad.
For the battery charging problem, I flash my app in the motion SW pages area, so that I can still charge the battery by booting in Robotis firmware.


I thought that wasn't possible... :D How do you specify SW pages?. I asked Robotis by mail and they give me no other alternative than reload original firmware to recharge...

There is the question about how do we can use IR comms from AX-S1 ... I didn't found info...

Thanks for you advice :)
jerome wrote:You have full control of the CPU, and all specs :)
That's not too bad.
For the battery charging problem, I flash my app in the motion SW pages area, so that I can still charge the battery by booting in Robotis firmware.


I thought that wasn't possible... :D How do you specify SW pages?. I asked Robotis by mail and they give me no other alternative than reload original firmware to recharge...

There is the question about how do we can use IR comms from AX-S1 ... I didn't found info...

Thanks for you advice :)
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Post by jerome » Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:02 pm

Post by jerome
Fri Oct 26, 2007 10:02 pm

Well, between 0xE000 and 0x1DFFF, there are 64k reserved for the motion software (127 pages of 512). You can overwrite some of them with no problem.

Link your prog to some other address with -Ttext=0x1a000 on the linker command line.
Download at same address with "load 1a000"
Launch with "go 1a000"
Well, between 0xE000 and 0x1DFFF, there are 64k reserved for the motion software (127 pages of 512). You can overwrite some of them with no problem.

Link your prog to some other address with -Ttext=0x1a000 on the linker command line.
Download at same address with "load 1a000"
Launch with "go 1a000"
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Post by hamid_m » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:38 pm

Post by hamid_m
Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:38 pm

Hello Taiguen,

I read about a camera and color recognition in a previous thread (see Bioloid Vision Module). Is it available now? That interests me a lot



Yes, We are now finishing the final steps. The module is going to be available in the next few days.

Hamid.
Hello Taiguen,

I read about a camera and color recognition in a previous thread (see Bioloid Vision Module). Is it available now? That interests me a lot



Yes, We are now finishing the final steps. The module is going to be available in the next few days.

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Post by Taiguen » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:30 pm

Post by Taiguen
Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:30 pm

Thanks for your replies so far,

I have another question:
Having read another topic, it seems the included battery life is only about 20 min.

But how long does it takes to fully reload them?

Thanks for your time
Thanks for your replies so far,

I have another question:
Having read another topic, it seems the included battery life is only about 20 min.

But how long does it takes to fully reload them?

Thanks for your time
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Post by siempre.aprendiendo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:43 pm

Post by siempre.aprendiendo
Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:43 pm

Taiguen wrote:Thanks for your replies so far,

I have another question:
Having read another topic, it seems the included battery life is only about 20 min.

But how long does it takes to fully reload them?

Thanks for your time


If you do a lot of movements is only about 8 minutes... you can use it while recharging, but plugged, of course.

I think that full recharging take about 2 hours...
Taiguen wrote:Thanks for your replies so far,

I have another question:
Having read another topic, it seems the included battery life is only about 20 min.

But how long does it takes to fully reload them?

Thanks for your time


If you do a lot of movements is only about 8 minutes... you can use it while recharging, but plugged, of course.

I think that full recharging take about 2 hours...
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