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motion files - questions

Post by Mammut » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:39 pm

Post by Mammut
Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:39 pm

Hi at all ( sorry just here for my bad english ;) ),

Now I have the Bioloid for 3 month and programmed a lot, but also with my humanoid I programmed just my own motion files.
But I never had a very complex program, just something like avoiding obstacles and sit down, when somebody is clapping.
And yesterday I had the idea to make a very complex program with a lot of different functions like push ups, headstand, cartwheel, different dance moves, ......etc. all in one programm, which is installed at the Bioloid at one time.
For this I want to use some parts and motions of the Example programm.
Now I have the problem, that I don't know how much motions are used for the example program, because you can't see it in the Behavior Control programmer, you just see which motion page is used, but I would think that isn't all of the pages ( you can see in BCP 96, but there are very big whole between the numbers of the pages...)

So does anyone knows a possibility to take the example motion file of the demo and look, how many motion files are in it and what numbers they have?
I don't want to overwrite them with my own motions.
Would be nice, if somebody could help me.

PS: Limor, I am so happy, that I bought the Bioloid, it was exactly what I needed to learn more about robotics, so thanks for your advice.
And my school is thinking, if they should by a Bioloid Expert Kit for our Natural Scientific lessons.
Hi at all ( sorry just here for my bad english ;) ),

Now I have the Bioloid for 3 month and programmed a lot, but also with my humanoid I programmed just my own motion files.
But I never had a very complex program, just something like avoiding obstacles and sit down, when somebody is clapping.
And yesterday I had the idea to make a very complex program with a lot of different functions like push ups, headstand, cartwheel, different dance moves, ......etc. all in one programm, which is installed at the Bioloid at one time.
For this I want to use some parts and motions of the Example programm.
Now I have the problem, that I don't know how much motions are used for the example program, because you can't see it in the Behavior Control programmer, you just see which motion page is used, but I would think that isn't all of the pages ( you can see in BCP 96, but there are very big whole between the numbers of the pages...)

So does anyone knows a possibility to take the example motion file of the demo and look, how many motion files are in it and what numbers they have?
I don't want to overwrite them with my own motions.
Would be nice, if somebody could help me.

PS: Limor, I am so happy, that I bought the Bioloid, it was exactly what I needed to learn more about robotics, so thanks for your advice.
And my school is thinking, if they should by a Bioloid Expert Kit for our Natural Scientific lessons.
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Post by srobot » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:37 pm

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Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:37 pm

1)To load a motion sequence from a CM5 to a MTN file:

Open the BCP application.
Click on "Management", then select "Robot Motion", then once connected click on "Read from Robot".

2)To load a motion sequence from a MTN file to CM5:
Open the BCP application.
Click on "Management", then select "Robot Motion", then once connected click on "Write to Robot".

3)The Motion Editor will enable you to edit what ever is loaded in the CM5 memoy. So to edit a motion - you will need to load into the CM5 first.

(Writen by RoboSavvy member BillB)
1)To load a motion sequence from a CM5 to a MTN file:

Open the BCP application.
Click on "Management", then select "Robot Motion", then once connected click on "Read from Robot".

2)To load a motion sequence from a MTN file to CM5:
Open the BCP application.
Click on "Management", then select "Robot Motion", then once connected click on "Write to Robot".

3)The Motion Editor will enable you to edit what ever is loaded in the CM5 memoy. So to edit a motion - you will need to load into the CM5 first.

(Writen by RoboSavvy member BillB)
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Post by Mammut » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:35 am

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Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:35 am

hm yes, I know how to get the motion file in or out of CM5, but how can you edit them with motion editor?

Thanks for your answer!
hm yes, I know how to get the motion file in or out of CM5, but how can you edit them with motion editor?

Thanks for your answer!
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Post by tom_chang79 » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:07 pm

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Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:07 pm

Once you written a motion file into your CM-5 through the BCP, your motion file will be read in to the Motion Editor when you open that program with your CM-5 still connected to it. "Flip" the pages by entering numbers into the "page no" field on one of the rows in the box to the right.

I've printed the BCP program of the default humanoid (you should get that utility from the knowledgebase section) so what page a specific action is, are more readily seeing.

If you don't have a printer, like me, I do a "print to CutePDF", which takes your print jobs and converts it to PDFs. The advantage of "printing" the behavior file is that the "..." aren't truncated, they are readily viewable. You can get free print to PDF utility from CutePDF:

www.cutepdf.com
Once you written a motion file into your CM-5 through the BCP, your motion file will be read in to the Motion Editor when you open that program with your CM-5 still connected to it. "Flip" the pages by entering numbers into the "page no" field on one of the rows in the box to the right.

I've printed the BCP program of the default humanoid (you should get that utility from the knowledgebase section) so what page a specific action is, are more readily seeing.

If you don't have a printer, like me, I do a "print to CutePDF", which takes your print jobs and converts it to PDFs. The advantage of "printing" the behavior file is that the "..." aren't truncated, they are readily viewable. You can get free print to PDF utility from CutePDF:

www.cutepdf.com
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Post by limor » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:06 pm

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Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:06 pm

tom_chang79 wrote:If you don't have a printer, like me, I do a "print to CutePDF", which takes your print jobs and converts it to PDFs. The advantage of "printing" the behavior file is that the "..." aren't truncated, they are readily viewable. You can get free print to PDF utility from CutePDF:
www.cutepdf.com

This one seems to cost money. there's a sourceforge (opensource) version that i use called http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/
tom_chang79 wrote:If you don't have a printer, like me, I do a "print to CutePDF", which takes your print jobs and converts it to PDFs. The advantage of "printing" the behavior file is that the "..." aren't truncated, they are readily viewable. You can get free print to PDF utility from CutePDF:
www.cutepdf.com

This one seems to cost money. there's a sourceforge (opensource) version that i use called http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/
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Post by siempre.aprendiendo » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:51 pm

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Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:51 pm

http://www.primopdf.com is very good, "simply 'printing' to the PrimoPDF printer"
http://www.primopdf.com is very good, "simply 'printing' to the PrimoPDF printer"
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Post by tom_chang79 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:11 am

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Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:11 am

limor wrote:This one seems to cost money. there's a sourceforge (opensource) version that i use called http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/


Yeah, even though CutePDF's site is a .com, the personal edition doesn't cost money. I've been using it at home for quite a while now, and no malware or adware seems to be packaged in. Still, opensource software is probably the best at reducing the chance of malware or adware packaged in...
limor wrote:This one seems to cost money. there's a sourceforge (opensource) version that i use called http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/


Yeah, even though CutePDF's site is a .com, the personal edition doesn't cost money. I've been using it at home for quite a while now, and no malware or adware seems to be packaged in. Still, opensource software is probably the best at reducing the chance of malware or adware packaged in...
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Post by Mammut » Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:20 pm

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thx for the informations !
thx for the informations !
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Post by srobot » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:20 am

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Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:20 am

tom_chang79 wrote:I've printed the BCP program of the default humanoid (you should get that utility from the knowledgebase section) so what page a specific action is, are more readily seeing.

If you don't have a printer, like me, I do a "print to CutePDF", which takes your print jobs and converts it to PDFs. The advantage of "printing" the behavior file is that the "..." aren't truncated, they are readily viewable. You can get free print to PDF utility from CutePDF:

www.cutepdf.com


I must have missed this, how do you print the motion editor files?
tom_chang79 wrote:I've printed the BCP program of the default humanoid (you should get that utility from the knowledgebase section) so what page a specific action is, are more readily seeing.

If you don't have a printer, like me, I do a "print to CutePDF", which takes your print jobs and converts it to PDFs. The advantage of "printing" the behavior file is that the "..." aren't truncated, they are readily viewable. You can get free print to PDF utility from CutePDF:

www.cutepdf.com


I must have missed this, how do you print the motion editor files?
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Post by tom_chang79 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:33 am

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Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:33 am

You're able to print out the behavior control program, but no motion files. I've been trying to figure a way to edit the motion file via a text editor or something, but to no avail. It would be nice if someone could make a utility to format out the motion files so that you can circumvent the GUI-based editor, which really slows down the editing...
You're able to print out the behavior control program, but no motion files. I've been trying to figure a way to edit the motion file via a text editor or something, but to no avail. It would be nice if someone could make a utility to format out the motion files so that you can circumvent the GUI-based editor, which really slows down the editing...
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Post by Bullit » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:59 am

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Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:59 am

It's certainly much easier to edit motion files from the robot terminal then the motion editor.
It's certainly much easier to edit motion files from the robot terminal then the motion editor.
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