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Bioloid + 1.6Ghz fit-pc2.

Bioloid robot kit from Korean company Robotis; CM5 controller block, AX12 servos..
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Post by SK » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:13 am

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:13 am

Looks like you are making very good progress, especially impressive because you probably don´t exactly have the amount of resources of the average university team.
I sure hope I´ll be able to have a chat with you and a have look at your Bioloid in Singapore :)
Looks like you are making very good progress, especially impressive because you probably don´t exactly have the amount of resources of the average university team.
I sure hope I´ll be able to have a chat with you and a have look at your Bioloid in Singapore :)
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Post by billyzelsnack » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:53 pm

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Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:53 pm

My living room is going to look great when I install the soccer carpet!
My living room is going to look great when I install the soccer carpet!
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Post by billyzelsnack » Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:26 am

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Now to get the new code running on the Robot's Linux box and get rid of that tether.
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Now to get the new code running on the Robot's Linux box and get rid of that tether.
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Post by billyzelsnack » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:41 am

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Looks like I ran out of time. Due to some serial port issues on Linux I was unable to get the robot to work reliably untethered. I updated the video above with links to some untethered video clips if you're interested.
Looks like I ran out of time. Due to some serial port issues on Linux I was unable to get the robot to work reliably untethered. I updated the video above with links to some untethered video clips if you're interested.
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Post by billyzelsnack » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:13 am

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Post by Suicidal.Banana » Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:35 pm

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Mon Feb 01, 2010 1:35 pm

very nice, i envy you :x
very nice, i envy you :x
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Post by billyzelsnack » Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:56 am

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The old case was irritating me. Every time I went to fiddle it required taking way too many things apart. This new case is designed to be less irritating. The major "feature" is that it is no longer integrated directly into the robot frame. It is meant to be detachable. I've also started mounting the required connectors directly into the case which will help a lot with wiring. One other thing.. The fan actually blows directly on the opposite side of the motherboard than the CPU. It still works out quite well and the temps are right around the lowest measurable by the internal CPU sensors ( 50C. )

So.. Saying all that.. Geez. it sure is a hassle to make these. If I was building a robot even slightly larger I'd just modify the fit-pc2 case. The fit-pc2 case is 190g and my case is 95g. With not a lot of work you could get the fit-pc2 case down to 140g, but you'd probably need to add some weight to protect the CPU because it mechanically uses the case as a heatsink which would be kinda scary on a biped.

fit-pc2 case
total 190g
no hd tray 180g
no hd door 142g

my case
total 95g
fan 10g
bottom with stand offs 33g
top 51g

Next case I build I'll try out 0.02 instead of the 0.03 I am currently using. The 0.03 is actually overkill by the time you get it all bolted together. 0.02 should put the case into the 65g range which would be pretty nice diet.
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The old case was irritating me. Every time I went to fiddle it required taking way too many things apart. This new case is designed to be less irritating. The major "feature" is that it is no longer integrated directly into the robot frame. It is meant to be detachable. I've also started mounting the required connectors directly into the case which will help a lot with wiring. One other thing.. The fan actually blows directly on the opposite side of the motherboard than the CPU. It still works out quite well and the temps are right around the lowest measurable by the internal CPU sensors ( 50C. )

So.. Saying all that.. Geez. it sure is a hassle to make these. If I was building a robot even slightly larger I'd just modify the fit-pc2 case. The fit-pc2 case is 190g and my case is 95g. With not a lot of work you could get the fit-pc2 case down to 140g, but you'd probably need to add some weight to protect the CPU because it mechanically uses the case as a heatsink which would be kinda scary on a biped.

fit-pc2 case
total 190g
no hd tray 180g
no hd door 142g

my case
total 95g
fan 10g
bottom with stand offs 33g
top 51g

Next case I build I'll try out 0.02 instead of the 0.03 I am currently using. The 0.03 is actually overkill by the time you get it all bolted together. 0.02 should put the case into the 65g range which would be pretty nice diet.
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Post by billyzelsnack » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:00 pm

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Post by billyzelsnack » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:08 am

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Post by billyzelsnack » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:51 am

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Post by PatrickS1981 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:44 am

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Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:44 am

Wow this is amazing. I am looking for this kind of control on a robot. I was thinking of making an ATOM the controller of the robot. I really want to program on it, and for what I want to do, I need the power (Im a student AI)... Do you have some more advanced documents on the building plans? Would it be hard to rebuild it? (im not a technician)
Nice work m8!
Wow this is amazing. I am looking for this kind of control on a robot. I was thinking of making an ATOM the controller of the robot. I really want to program on it, and for what I want to do, I need the power (Im a student AI)... Do you have some more advanced documents on the building plans? Would it be hard to rebuild it? (im not a technician)
Nice work m8!
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Post by billyzelsnack » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:19 pm

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It really is quite a lot of work. Nothing too complicated, but more work than it seems.

I don't have any more documentation than I've shown. If you'd like pictures or videos of anything specific I can post those. At some point in the future I plan on releasing the software for the controller, but not quite yet.
It really is quite a lot of work. Nothing too complicated, but more work than it seems.

I don't have any more documentation than I've shown. If you'd like pictures or videos of anything specific I can post those. At some point in the future I plan on releasing the software for the controller, but not quite yet.
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Post by PatrickS1981 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:39 pm

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Thanks for your reply. The main things I really would like to know (im going to start with nothing atm) are you still using the controller that is supplied with the bioloid or are you only using the fit pc? Do you think, if you dont have the bioloid yet that it would be easyer to buy a bracket with servo's and a fit pc or is it better to buy the bioloid set with it? About the software, my main purpose is coding it. Im just looking for the "cheapest" way of buying a humanoid robot with PC power to make it autonomous with camera and speakers. A wifi option is a second way of doing it with a wifi controller on the robot, and then realtime communication between a PC en the robot, but then It needs also sound sensors and production etc etc... Hope you can advice me.
Thanks for your reply. The main things I really would like to know (im going to start with nothing atm) are you still using the controller that is supplied with the bioloid or are you only using the fit pc? Do you think, if you dont have the bioloid yet that it would be easyer to buy a bracket with servo's and a fit pc or is it better to buy the bioloid set with it? About the software, my main purpose is coding it. Im just looking for the "cheapest" way of buying a humanoid robot with PC power to make it autonomous with camera and speakers. A wifi option is a second way of doing it with a wifi controller on the robot, and then realtime communication between a PC en the robot, but then It needs also sound sensors and production etc etc... Hope you can advice me.
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Post by billyzelsnack » Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:54 pm

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My robot does not use the CM-5 controller that comes with the Bioloid.

You need to decide if not having an on-board CPU is the route you want to go. That route is much simpler and requires substantially less building and custom software. If the only additional sensor you need is a microphone I'd guess the wifi cameras already give you that.

Either way if you've decided on the Bioloid platform it actually cost less to get a comprehensive kit vs buying all the servos separately. You can go the premium route, but it is not a requirement. You can still build the premium humanoid robots with minimal extra work and then you can use all the new motions which are much nicer than the old motions. I have a few videos starting here.. http://www.youtube.com/user/billyzelsna ... hCR8e9OQbU .
I actually still am running a bunch of the premium motions in my latest videos though I import/converted them into my software and run them on the onboard CPU instead of the CM-5.
My robot does not use the CM-5 controller that comes with the Bioloid.

You need to decide if not having an on-board CPU is the route you want to go. That route is much simpler and requires substantially less building and custom software. If the only additional sensor you need is a microphone I'd guess the wifi cameras already give you that.

Either way if you've decided on the Bioloid platform it actually cost less to get a comprehensive kit vs buying all the servos separately. You can go the premium route, but it is not a requirement. You can still build the premium humanoid robots with minimal extra work and then you can use all the new motions which are much nicer than the old motions. I have a few videos starting here.. http://www.youtube.com/user/billyzelsna ... hCR8e9OQbU .
I actually still am running a bunch of the premium motions in my latest videos though I import/converted them into my software and run them on the onboard CPU instead of the CM-5.
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Post by billyzelsnack » Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:11 pm

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Looks like I did not qualify for Robocup 2010.

http://www.tzi.de/humanoid/bin/view/Website/Teams2010

I should be in really good shape for next year's qualifications.
Looks like I did not qualify for Robocup 2010.

http://www.tzi.de/humanoid/bin/view/Website/Teams2010

I should be in really good shape for next year's qualifications.
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