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Gyro / Zigbee module status?

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Gyro / Zigbee module status?

Post by dmichaelson » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:21 pm

Post by dmichaelson
Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:21 pm

Sorry for two consecutive posts, I have many questions :)

Just curious if anyone knows the status of either the gyro or zigbee modules?

It seems like Robotis has mentioned them from time to time, but do they exist or has anyone heard when they will?
Sorry for two consecutive posts, I have many questions :)

Just curious if anyone knows the status of either the gyro or zigbee modules?

It seems like Robotis has mentioned them from time to time, but do they exist or has anyone heard when they will?
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Post by Robo1 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:26 pm

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:26 pm

This link might be of use.

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This link might be of use.

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Post by dmichaelson » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:34 pm

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:34 pm

Hm, thanks..
How come everyone's focused on hacking Bluetooth onto the Zigbee port? It's a cool project, but why not just use Zigbee like these (surveyor.com) do?
Hm, thanks..
How come everyone's focused on hacking Bluetooth onto the Zigbee port? It's a cool project, but why not just use Zigbee like these (surveyor.com) do?
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Post by limor » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:14 pm

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:14 pm

We received a sample of the upcoming ZigBee boards and PC addapter.
Haven't had time to test it with Christmas shopping craze we experienced.

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We received a sample of the upcoming ZigBee boards and PC addapter.
Haven't had time to test it with Christmas shopping craze we experienced.

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Post by inaki » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:41 pm

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:41 pm

An obvious reason to go with Bluetooth instead of Zigbee is that you don't need any aditional interface on your PC/PDA/Phone.
An obvious reason to go with Bluetooth instead of Zigbee is that you don't need any aditional interface on your PC/PDA/Phone.
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Post by dmichaelson » Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:52 pm

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Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:52 pm

limor wrote:We received a sample of the upcoming ZigBee boards and PC addapter.
Haven't had time to test it with Christmas shopping craze we experienced.


Cool! Look forward to getting my hands on one of these after Christmas :) Looks like the PC adapter is serial not USB?

inaki wrote:An obvious reason to go with Bluetooth instead of Zigbee is that you don't need any aditional interface on your PC/PDA/Phone.


True, that makes sense for a laptop or PDA or phone. Putting your robot's logic on a phone would be pretty rad. Do phones have a serial bluetooth stack?
limor wrote:We received a sample of the upcoming ZigBee boards and PC addapter.
Haven't had time to test it with Christmas shopping craze we experienced.


Cool! Look forward to getting my hands on one of these after Christmas :) Looks like the PC adapter is serial not USB?

inaki wrote:An obvious reason to go with Bluetooth instead of Zigbee is that you don't need any aditional interface on your PC/PDA/Phone.


True, that makes sense for a laptop or PDA or phone. Putting your robot's logic on a phone would be pretty rad. Do phones have a serial bluetooth stack?
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Post by Pev » Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:01 am

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Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:01 am

I certainly have seen posts on here where people have loaded my PDA interfaces to smartPhones and got them working

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I certainly have seen posts on here where people have loaded my PDA interfaces to smartPhones and got them working

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Post by JI_YI_MI » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:58 am

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:58 am

Hello !!

I would like to know if you had had time to test the zigbee and the PC adaptor? and when you think market them?

Thank you :lol:
Hello !!

I would like to know if you had had time to test the zigbee and the PC adaptor? and when you think market them?

Thank you :lol:
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Post by Bullit » Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:44 pm

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Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:44 pm

Phones with Bluetooth and CLDC 1.1 have SPP serial port stack. I use a phone with some custom java code to control my bots.
From what I understand the advantages of Zigbee over Bluetooth is that it is more realtime then Bluetooth and when signal is lost Zigbee connects faster. Although Bluetooth 2 can operate up to 3 Mb/sec if you were to loopback one character it would take about 80ms. Zigbee operates only up to 115kb baud but loopback time should be less then 1ms. The complex protocol stack of Bluetooth and USB cause the turn around time to be so slow. If you intend on doing realtime control on your PC then this may be important. The USB delay is likely the reason the PC interface for Zigbee is RS-232. So if you really need realtime control don't use a USB to serial converter to get realtime. I personally have found Bluetooth to work excellent but I keep realtime code on the my bots.
Phones with Bluetooth and CLDC 1.1 have SPP serial port stack. I use a phone with some custom java code to control my bots.
From what I understand the advantages of Zigbee over Bluetooth is that it is more realtime then Bluetooth and when signal is lost Zigbee connects faster. Although Bluetooth 2 can operate up to 3 Mb/sec if you were to loopback one character it would take about 80ms. Zigbee operates only up to 115kb baud but loopback time should be less then 1ms. The complex protocol stack of Bluetooth and USB cause the turn around time to be so slow. If you intend on doing realtime control on your PC then this may be important. The USB delay is likely the reason the PC interface for Zigbee is RS-232. So if you really need realtime control don't use a USB to serial converter to get realtime. I personally have found Bluetooth to work excellent but I keep realtime code on the my bots.
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Post by mic » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:20 pm

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Pev wrote:I certainly have seen posts on here where people have loaded my PDA interfaces to smartPhones and got them working

Pev


Hello pev,

I am very interested in your PDA interfaces, could you post it again? Many Thanks. Mic.
Pev wrote:I certainly have seen posts on here where people have loaded my PDA interfaces to smartPhones and got them working

Pev


Hello pev,

I am very interested in your PDA interfaces, could you post it again? Many Thanks. Mic.
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Post by Pev » Mon Jan 15, 2007 1:36 pm

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mic wrote:
Pev wrote:I certainly have seen posts on here where people have loaded my PDA interfaces to smartPhones and got them working

Pev


Hello pev,

I am very interested in your PDA interfaces, could you post it again? Many Thanks. Mic.


Mic

I've sent you a PM on this

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Pev wrote:I certainly have seen posts on here where people have loaded my PDA interfaces to smartPhones and got them working

Pev


Hello pev,

I am very interested in your PDA interfaces, could you post it again? Many Thanks. Mic.


Mic

I've sent you a PM on this

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