Marilou Robotics Studio

[savuporo]

Just saw this announced at ode mailing list,
http://www.marilou-roboticsstudio.com/index.html
I havent downloaded this yet as i have no windows box ATM but looks surprisingly thorough and state-of-the art.
Proper physical simulation, plugin interfaces for exensibility, mods to run your control software in your own language, whole bunch of predefined sensors and actuators included etc etc.
Maybe people from Robosavvy forums should pester the devs there to include popular humanoid robot kits premodelled in this package.

[edmen]

this can be used on the khr 2 correct ?

[savuporo]

You can probably use it for any robot, if you take time to assemble the model in the editor.
It does not appear to be difficult.

[robbybot]

newbie question,
could you use this to actually programe your robot, or am i missing the point?

[limor]

newbie question,
could you use this to actually programe your robot, or am i missing the point?

It is a software to simulate the robot and it's physics.
Assuming it can simulate a servo, you would then have to write a simulator of the controler board (or at least its scripting language), then you would write a program that could run on the simulator and would in theory be able to run on the real robot.. so the short answer is no.

[tinman1]

limor wrote

Assuming it can simulate a servo, you would then have to write a simulator of the controler board (or at least its scripting language), then you would write a program that could run on the simulator and would in theory be able to run on the real robot.. so the short answer is no.

It sounds like the answer is yes... but, only with a considerable amount of work.
Is there any interface GUI presently that would fulfill this requirement? Something that you could virtually create routines in real time and could then be loaded to the robot?
tinman

[LR]

Hi every body,

In fact Marilou let you create the physics model and render model of the robot. You can attach some sensors (ir, us, laser ..) and actuators (motors, servos, surface motion etc.).

You can create virtual worlds including your robot(s) model(s) (made with marilou of course). The BETA version let you program the virtual robot using the C++/C++ CLI or C# libraries. It's possible to create compatibility layers witch allow you to create a 'compatible' real/simulated API. Of course if the real robot is BASIC programable (for exemple) , marilou does not includes BASIC interpret. but ... if some one know how to interpret BASIC it's possible to create a BASIC compatibility layer ...

[DerekZahn]

Hi. I'm curious about how accurate you think MRS is. I recently did a small experiment with ODE and found it to be very interesting, but I believe that the interaction of the foot with the ground is rather complex and leads to inaccuracies and odd behavior. I think the most likely reason for this is that ODE uses "contact points" to model the interactions between the foot and the ground and the result is a lot of rattling around the corners of the foot, which is not at all what happens in reality, especially for a somewhat spongy foot.

I'm curious if your simulation engine uses a more sophisticated model, such as lines or contact patches, which would probably help a lot.

Your program looks very nice, but I couldn't find much hardcore technical detail on your web site.

Thanks!

[DerekZahn]

Oops, I just saw that MRS uses ODE internally as its physics engine. It looks like you have made very nice additions to it, and I'm sure lots of people will get good use from it.

[LR]

Oops, I just saw that MRS uses ODE internally as its physics engine. It looks like you have made very nice additions to it, and I'm sure lots of people will get good use from it.

Yes, Marilou is using ODE as physical engine. It's true that contacts points management may be pretty bad for foots but if, for exemple, you create the foot with many geoms (instead of 1), you can get several contacts points witch is very better : the foot can have 4,8,16, ... n contacts points (using 1,2,4, ... n boxes for exemple)

Marilou includes 'materials' you can attach to geoms, that's mean that 'wood' floor with 'tire rubber' foots does not reacts same as 'glass' floor with 'glass' foot.

[problah]

Now I'm a newb here. As this is in fact my first post, so please don't flame.

What are the options involved for programming in Perl? C is great, but perl would offer a pretty extreme open source opportunity in development.

Hi every body,

In fact Marilou let you create the physics model and render model of the robot. You can attach some sensors (ir, us, laser ..) and actuators (motors, servos, surface motion etc.).

You can create virtual worlds including your robot(s) model(s) (made with marilou of course). The BETA version let you program the virtual robot using the C++/C++ CLI or C# libraries. It's possible to create compatibility layers witch allow you to create a 'compatible' real/simulated API. Of course if the real robot is BASIC programable (for exemple) , marilou does not includes BASIC interpret. but ... if some one know how to interpret BASIC it's possible to create a BASIC compatibility layer ...

[LR]

Now I'm a newb here. As this is in fact my first post, so please don't flame.

What are the options involved for programming in Perl? C is great, but perl would offer a pretty extreme open source opportunity in development.

Hi,
In fact it is possible to write something (a server ? a library ??) witch is able to send commands to MODA server (Marilou Open Devices Access), or, write a server witch dial with the engine. but i don't know perl ... the simplest way is to write something witch understand perl and translate commands to MODA server .

[problah]

Okay, so we would need to create a module so Perl could interface with it. Cool. Thanks alot for the quick response.

[LR]

Hi, just for saying that a new version of Marilou Robotics Studio is ready to download (M05). You can get it at http://www.anykode.com.

Also, you can download the free HOME licence file (reserved for hobbiysts, at HOME)

LR

[HumanoidFan]

Hi,

We are thinking of adding a humanoid ( or more than one) robot to our 3D robot simulator and robot development environment and would like to get some feedback from the robosavvy users.
http://www.cogmation.com

Currently we are considering adding the Hitech RoboNova and Robotis Bioloid. Should we consider any others ?

Our software allows developers to create robot code, simulate the robot in 3D environment and then download the same code to a real robot. We have support for C# and Basic scripting.
http://www.cogmation.com

Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Shawn Schaerer
Director of Research and Development
Cogmation Robotics Inc